So it begins. I didn’t think it would be so soon.
Welcome to Nazi Germany. Godwin’s Law is no longer relevant.
The Nazis killed/sterilized the sick to keep them from breeding. I don’t think that’s what your article is discussing. This thread has indeed been Godwinized by the first post.
I see. So you contend that not using public money to allow anyone with a relative in a vegetative state to keep that relative on life-support indefinitely at the public’s expense is the same as actively rounding up a particular ethnic group indiscriminately and sending them to gas chambers?
Welcome to Bad Analogy Theater. Next week on Bad Analogy Theater: not tipping your server is exactly the same as killing everyone in the restaurant with a butcher’s knife.
I mean, good God! Your post is a textbook example of why not to drag the Nazis into a discussion!
This columnist is not saying people should be taken off feeding tubes willy-nilly. He’s asking who pays for feeding tube. He’s not trying to take away the choice from the responsible family member. He’s asking who pays. He’s not saying people in vegetative states should be rounded up and shot. He’s saying that we should seriously consider the possibility that the government cannot afford to provide long-term medical care to every person or family who might have a use for it, and that this may affect people in vegetative states.
Get a grip.
And that was only an editorial…the New York government hasn’t decided to do it.
An editorial in the New York Post, no less. This thread cannot end well. It certainly didn’t start well.
So The New York Post is Der Sturmer?
Does that make Candace Bushnell’s Sex and the City, Mein Kampf?
I don’t see where the Nazi Germany analogy comes from. The article shined light on a difficult issue that needs to be addressed. And if we can’t afford something, we can’t afford it.
So, Universal Healthcare is what you want huh? I’m glad you conservative “culture of lifers” and us liberals can agree on something finally.
Does “universal health care” in any country include keeping people on a feeding tube decades past the point where all realistic hope was gone?
That analogy actually works better. Was there ever a government more obsessed with fashion than Nazi Germany?
Y’know, it’s interesting: I listened to a lot of right-wing talk radio during the final days of the Schiavo circus, largely because I needed something to do while driving a long distance across a sparsely populated stretch of territory. The right-wing call-in shows had plenty of callers who were very quick to use the Nazi analogy when describing Judge Greer and Michael Schiavo. In a number of cases, that was the first thing out of the caller’s mouth.
It seems to me that the Nazis were a favorite in this case, even though the analogy seldom (if ever) made any sense at all. It happened so often, I have to wonder if this didn’t have some sort of orchestrated effort on the part of right-to-die opponents? A quick Google search reveals a lot of such clutter:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=Schiavo+Nazi&lr=&sa=N&tab=nw
This bad analogy is awfully popular. But I guess in this day and age, when some feel it’s appropriate to decry tax increases as “socialism,” bad analogies are all the rage, aren’t they?
Yes, Universal Healthcare sounds so promising, especially after reading how well New York is dealing with only Medicaid costs (and I don’t have counter-cites handy, this is just from the link in the OP. The NY Post might be the most right-wing rag in the country for all I know.).
If the New York Post said it, it must be true. :rolleyes:
It’s a rag periodical, set up to directly compete with the New York Daily News, the Other rag periodical. neither one is a Newspaper. They both trade in poorly hidden accusations and innuendo, and blatant sensationalism. I would put more stock in the Enqirer for chrissake.
Correction, they are not even periodicals. They are tabloids. Long on sensationalism and indignation, short on accuracy.
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Even when an online post doesn’t start off mentioning Nazis, a disproportionate number of forum debates (not only on SDMB) end up there. Is there a name for this, a “[name]'s Law” stating that every online debate will invariably end in someone being compared to Hitler/the Nazis?
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I think this thread should be moved to the Pit. Then I can say what I really feel about the OP.
Well, they did love their flare…
Yes, but you misspelled that crude word for yoni.
Wait! It’s not just Godwin’s it’s bursting with slippery slope goodness too!
I just want the OP to admit that he secretly masturbates to fantasies of jamming tubes into people.
In other words, the Nazi analogy is bullcrap.