West Coast Choppers and their Iron Cross

To be honest, the first time I saw the “West Coast Choppers” logo, I thought it was from a white supremacist group. Mainly because the logo is a huge Iron Cross, which has been used by modern pro-NSDAP fascist-type people, associated as it is with militaristic (and, hence, fascist) Germany of WWI and WWII.

Even though I have seen only white guys were such apparel, it became clear that this wasn’t some neo-Nazi phenomenon.

But, is that an Iron Cross? Am I wrong in believing that the Iron Cross has a connection with a connotation of fascist Germany? Do the people know what this means?

WRS

Generally speaking, sure.

Mostly biker gear, skulls, wings, iron crosses, swastikas, etc., is more for shocl vak]=lue than anything else. It’s a corrupted expression of freedom of speech: “Fuck you, we can do it and you can’t do anything about it.”

I rode with the Iron Cross MC in Atlanta in the late 1960’s. We weren’t anti-semitic, not even black/white racist. We didn’t care. Mostly we wanted to be “in your face.” Most of us were disaffected recently separated VietNam vets along with a bunch of older hard-core bikers. Our logo was a large red iron cross. We weren’t neo-nazis by any stretch of the imagination. We discriminated against everyone equally.

There are several similar logos that have survived as ‘outlaw biker logos.’ Don’t mean nuthin’.

Dago Choppers, of San Diego, CA, used a pseudo-SS emblem as its logo. The building burned down in 1997 and to my knowledge the company is now defunct, but a painted brick wall undamaged by the fire and featuring the logo can still be seen on Voltaire Ave.

      • This might help in your research efforts: the type of cross that West Coast Choppers uses is not an “iron cross”, but a Maltese cross.
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-I had always presumed that the iron cross was a variant of the (much older) Maltese, but I never really looked it up before.
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The iron cross is a symbol of the German miltary and does not have the same connatations as the swastika which was a symbol of the Nazis. It is still used by the German military.

FEH!!

It’s is clearly not an iron cross. It’s a chrome cross people!

silly yuppies!
/Obviously kidding…

It nigh on impossible to read all that gothic font in capitals.

How can I properly mock the yuppie-SUV posers-fanboy-homies if I cannot properly read their back window sticker.

That is all.

I’ve seen more than one black guy in West Coast Chopper gear.
As I’m on the East Coast myself, I assume they’ve spread out beyond Long Beach?

That’s a bit complicated.
The short answer is that it has been designed over a century before the nazis and has been in use as a miltary symbol ever since. Even today it is the official logo of the armed forces.

Historical designs from the department of defense
general Bundeswehr site

But OTOH it is true that using it in non-military contexts is seen as a right-winged and probably nationalist statement. The iron cross is in fact sometimes used by neo-nazis because using nazi symbols is a crime.

It was a surfer thing in the 60s. I had one hanging around my nexk when I was 10 or 11. I think It was also a Rat Fink/Big Daddy Roth thing.

Hmmmm. Someone else out there remembers Big Dadddy and Rat Fink? As a kid, I had a big plastic model Rat Fink on my nightstand. My folks thought it was hideous (it was), so that made it cool automatically. I think the reason bikers and surfers etc like Iron Crosses is because other people are highly annoyed by it, just like having a Darwin fish thingy on your car instead of a Jesus fish thingy. It’s all about messing with people for fun.

How cool would it be to have a chrome Rat Fink outline on it’s side to put on the back of your car?