What a huge fucking asshole...

[Venoma]

not to beat a dead horse here, chaos, but mermaid has repeatedly stated that she WILL pay any damages she is liable for (if they can show her dog caused the damage). Rest of the post was spot on

[Chaosopher]

*Originally posted by Venoma *
**not to beat a dead horse here, chaos, but mermaid has repeatedly stated that she WILL pay any damages she is liable for (if they can show her dog caused the damage). Rest of the post was spot on **

Yeah, I had a brain fart. the part that says ‘you should own up’ was supposed to say ‘As you did own up’ don’t ask me how I crossed those wires.

I think I need more caffeine.

[Bill_H]

pennylane wrote

Bill H., how would you feel if your son ran into the street and got hit by a car? It would be his fault (or yours, depending on how old he is), but let’s say neither the driver of the car nor any occupants were injured, and the driver showed concern only for the damage done to his car by your son. Wouldn’t you feel that he was being insensitive and cruel? Many people value their pets very highly, as highly as family members in some cases. It may be The Mermaid’s fault and she may even be liable but that does not change the fact that the driver was unnecessarily harsh. Not to mention the possibility that he may be trying to con her into paying damages not incurred by the accident.

Correct on both counts. Being a jerk is bad, and the person may be trying to con her.

Gary Kumquat wrote

Look, you have to admit that the guy would have been far better off getting his insurance company to deal with the bill. I don’t really care if he has a legal claim on Mermaid, turning up on her doorstep was a stupid thing to do.

I agree.

In the heated posts above, I’m not even arguing with The Mermaid. In fact (as I said) I sympathise with the pain she feels.

My heated responses were for others in this thread who have spouted hypotheticals, equating dogs to humans, denying responsibility, and in a particularly vile post, suggesting that they would sic a large dog on me if I should even suggest dismay that my son was injured by her dog.

[msmith537]

*Originally posted by Bill H. *
I’ll say it again: If you couldn’t control your 25 lb dog, and it ran in front of my car and caused me to swerve endangering or injuring my son, and then you slammed the door in my face, I would hurt you. I don’t know how right now. It would most likely involve the police and the judicial system, but if my son were seriously injured, maybe I wouldn’t be so kind.

Like I said, you would do jack shit. Seeth all you want but the law is on my side. I would not expect you to swerve off into a bridge abutment to avoid a dog jumping out in front of you but if you are obeying the posted residential speed limit of 25 - 25 mph, there should be no reason why a 25lb dog should cause you to risk your own life. If you’re driving through my neighborhood 100 mph like an asshole, well thats your own fault isn’t it?

As for hurting me, spare me the macho bullshit. If some nut-job shows up on my doorstep, I am well within my rights to defend myself and my property. I’m pretty sure the cops will back me up on this.

*Originally posted by Bill H. *
You must be on crack to not understand the difference between a human pedestrian and a dog. But normal people can. And more importantly, the law can. Your damn dog is the equivalent of a piece of furniture under the law; IT IS NOT A HUMAN BEING. If your dog damages me or my family, you are criminally negligent. And if you mock my pain and shirk your responsibility, you are beneath contempt.

If i leave a couch on the side of the road and you are stupid enough to run into it, is that my fault? The dog is just doing what it is supposed to do. Run around and chase things. Fuck your pain. Ever hear of ‘driving defensively’? That means that you drive as if that dog, child, old person, or mullet headed guido in the IROC is going to jump out in front of you when you don’t expect it. You supposedly have a lot more control of your vehicle than I do over some animal.

*Originally posted by Bill H. *

Third, you should probably find a more worthwhile cause to go to “great lengths” over.

I think this advice would serve you well.

oooo…good one

*Originally posted by Bill H. *
If you’re serious [about sicing your hypothetical 100+ lb doberman on some guy demanding damages for hitting him] you’re evil. There is no other word to describe your actions; evil. If your dog injured a member of my family, and then you encouraged said dog to attack me, the first thing I would do is defend myself and make certain your dog was dead. The second thing I would do is to injure you in whatever way possible, most likely through the courts. **

For my hypothetical, I’m picturing the very real 120lb doberman one of my frat buddies ownes out at his parents house in the country (I’m really more of a laborador person but while we’re making stuff up anyway…). believe me, the last thing I would be woried about is you killing a dog that can crush fireplace logs in his jaws.

I don’t really see it as evil. As far as I know, you might be some psycho. A rational person would go through their insurance company or lawyer, not suddenly show up on my doorstep demanding payment for hitting my hypothetical dog. Besides, evil people own cats, not dogs.

The way I see it, unless I felt I was responsible (which I wouldn’t in this case), I wouldn’t expect any money from me that wasn’t so ordered by a court of law.

[astro]

[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by msmith537 *
**

For my hypothetical, I’m picturing the very real 120lb doberman one of my frat buddies ownes out at his parents house in the country (I’m really more of a laborador person but while we’re making stuff up anyway…). believe me, the last thing I would be woried about is you killing a dog that can crush fireplace logs in his jaws.**

But gosh… after you get put in jail for siccing your dog on a person, your “frat buddies” have shunned you and Bubba and Leroy are taking turns teaching you what “doggie style” really means don’t you think there might just the teeniest twinge of realization that doing this was a mistake?

[Bricker]

[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by Dinsdale *

*Originally posted by SuaSponte *
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At most, a citation would have been evidence in a civil suit. **

Of course it should be objected to as hearsay.

Business records exception.

• Rick

[Badtz_Maru]

I thought this thread was going to be about the goatse.cx man.

[Wump]

*Originally posted by Shera *
<snip>I defenatly wouldn’t demand that they fix my car.That would be the last thing on my mind. <snip>
**

I got hit by a car last thursday. I was ok and was checking myself for any serious damage when the lady who hit me asked “are you ok?”. Seeing that i was ok (bruised ankle, bit of blood, nothing major) i said “yes”. I then picked up my bike and moved off to the side to get out of the way of other cars. I put down my bike and went around the corner to talk with the lady…

The bitch had taken off. I said i was ok, so she felt it was fine to go. I suppose i wasn’t clear enough…
My bike cost 200$ to fix. Luckily the frame wasn’t bent, just the wheels.

**The point of this hijack: **Fixing my bike was the last thing on my mind, and it cost me a weeks pay. This guy was looking out for his intrests, which to me was definatly the right thing to do.

Mermaid, No it’s not your fault, but you are at fault. You are legally obligated to keep control of your animal at all times. (In Calgary at least)
The man didn’t handle the situation as nicely as he could have and he may be an asshole, but he won’t be getting fucked like i did.

[Bill_H]

For my hypothetical, I’m picturing the very real 120lb doberman

Why don’t you just buy a gun and shoot people who come to the door asking you to pay for damages you’ve caused?

Or does it amuse you to think that being attacked by a large dog would inflict a more painful death?

[pennylane]

I think the large dog was originally supposed to be the same one hit by your car. So maybe the point was to let the dog avenge itself on you.