That “Enterprise vs. a Star Destroyer” thread got me to thinking about individual matchups of characters from the respective Star Trek/Star Wars universes. I think the best would be Data vs. Darth Vader. But there are a few ground rules.
1- Vader only has his lightsaber, Data a standard-issue Federation phaser.
2- Data can grip the phaser strongly enough so that Vader can’t pull it out of his hand like he did Han Solo’s blaster in TESB.
3- Since Vader never actually did it in a movie, I’m assuming he wouldn’t simply use the Force to pick Data up and slam him against a wall.
4- Data can react 10 times faster than a normal human being can, so the edge the Force gives Vader is much smaller than normal.
5- What if Data also had a lightsaber, and was programmed to use it?
That’s all I can think of right now. Anyone have any other good ideas for individual matchups?
I hear the faint beeping in the distance of Manhattan’s thread moving, industrial fork lift approaching, preparing to activate it’s mightly godzilla lifting arms to move this thread out of GQ and into IMHO.
But wait. Is this the Data WITH his emotion chip, or without? I think if this is the Data with the emotion chip in, he would probably shit his pants at the sight of Vader.
If it is the Data without it, he may put up a little resistance before Vader rips him to shreads.
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Vader would whack him with furniture from the enterprise before he sliced him in two. Remember in episode one, the droids and their phasers couuldnt get a shot in throguh that lightsaber. I think Data is the same thing with skin.
Vader would definately have the advantage of having the Force, and knowing how to use a lightsaber to block phaser shots (assuming you could block phaser shots with a lightsaber. Let’s assume that Star Trek phasers work similar to Star Wars blasters)
But on the other hand, since Data isn’t technically alive, Vader wouldn’t be able to use his jedi mind tricks, and Data would be able to sneak up behind him without being detected. And that Jedi choke thing that Vader does wouldn’t be too effective against Data.
It’s a pretty fair fight, so I’m not sure, but I’m guessing Vader would win.
Why not? The Force allows a trained user to sense anything, from falling rocks to variations in air currents (if he’s good enough). Part of a Jedi’s training (or the training that Luke gave his trainees in The Jedi Academy Trilogy was to sense all the bits and pieces of the universe, to send their mind out and… oh, nevermind). In any case, something needn’t be alive in order to be manipulated through the Force. Heck, Luke mananged to lift Artoo and some rocks in the air, and that was when he was before he had even trained a whole lot.
He didn’t do it to a humanoid object, but he certainly tossed crates around and ripped massive power conduits off the wall like they were styrofoam in The Empire Strikes Back. Why would Data be any different? Telekinisis is telekinisis.
However, I’d bet that Vader wouldn’t bother with such a tactic… he does like a challenge, after all (as evidenced from his piloting mannerisms in Shadows of the Empire.) Chances are, he’d just go in with his lightsaber and hack 'n slash… more fun that way, don’tcha know.
Anyway, I’d like to be able to chalk one up to the Trek side again (I kinda feel bad about showing up the Trekkies in my… that’s right, MY… Enterprise vs. Star Destroyer thread :D), but Vader just has all the advantages… namely, while Data may be super-strong and fast, he is, in the end, just another guy with a gun.
Now, if you want a more equal fight, try pitting Data against IG-88 or Boba Fett (THAT would be a fight worth watching!). Or possibly Q vs… nah, Q’d kick anyone’s ass…
Hey, let’s not forget that Data has a factory installed ON/OFF switch. Remember when Riker turned his ass off to prove that he was just a machine. Vader could just use the force to press the switch. End of fight.
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So I have some time this morning. If you imagine befalling to an unfortunate occurance of a transmittable disease originating in the meat and two veg region of planet self who would you rather seek out for intergalactic remedy:
(1) I think I’ve marked Crusher down as a conventional kind of gal – maybe a little bit of an public exhibitionist but nothing to risky,
(2) Counsellor Troi – pretty sure she’s a straddler and from that glint in Rikers eye, she’s no slouch,
(3) 7 of 9 – functional but game for anything and great ‘interpersonal’ skills due to the collective’s knowledge base. And that body !
(4) Commander Janeway – interesting, once that hair comes down anything could happen. Possibly a preference for doggy style candidate
(5) The ill-fated Security woman (it’s on the tip of my tongue….uuugghh !) Tasha someone ? – hmmmm …once that guard went down, who knows ?
Ok, I’ve got work to do….
Oh, think I might do with the Hologram and …sheesh, this is difficult…Counsellor Troi ? (if she was lucky)
