Due to a recently deployed bug in Discourse, if you embed a video so it will play in the thread, that post may or may not be able to be posted. But if it does post, it absolutely positively cannot be edited.
If instead you provide the vid link in the form of something you have to click to navigate to e.g. youtube to play the vid there, the no-post / no-edit bug is not triggered. See the current thread in Site Feedback for more, but I’ve covered the punchline.
Ah…thanks. I was thinking I need to stop by Site Feedback but I think you’ve answered it. Hope Discourse gets it sorted.
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Ctrl-K will allow you to insert a link that won’t get fudged.
This is disappointing.
I would think these missteps were a crime against the court itself (or at the very least an ethics violation). That FOX and/or their lawyers can buy their way out of consequences for this seems wrong to me. I’d think the judge would at least refer the Fox attorneys to their local Bar for sanctions.
It is already being discussed, though, with many experiments. No conclusions, except that Discourse is inconsistently hosed.
According to other analysis I’ve read, you (assuming you’re an American taxpayer) will pay about $200M of the settlement.
I’m on a number of right-wing forums and the response has been silence in most cases; just completely ducking the issue, with one or two tepid assertions of “everyone knows the election was stolen”. Hopefully some of the silent people are reassessing their convictions. But I won’t hold my breath.
The few people actually commenting on this settlement, are coming up with incredibly desperate excuses. A popular one is that FOX and Dominion are actually owned by the same people.
Because obviously that would make a lot of sense.
Update: The TV coverage has indeed been (rightly) more critical of FOX. (youtube clip)
Unless, on the other side, Dominion has to pay taxes on their recovery.
That may very well be a part of Fox’s calculations in settling - let Dominion concentrate on destroying our competition.
Yes, this occurred to me, too – meaning it also occurred to Dominion’s lawyers.
I suspect they’ll be selective about the cases they wish to pursue with relentless focus – and the ones they won’t. “Ask for enough to make it hurt – but not enough to put them out of business. Well, except for Giuliani. And Powell. And Lindell. Let’s crush those assholes.”
In the US at least, my recollection is that actual damages recovered from a legal action aren’t taxable. Punitive damages are taxable. I’m trying to dig up a cite and the answers are complex.
OK, I found this, which says the Dominion monies may be taxable.
Damages related to actual physical injury are tax exempt. So that’s a lot of lawsuits, but of course not all. This Dominion case wouldn’t get that exemption, although perhaps there is something else I’m unaware of.
It may also make a difference that Dominion Voting Systems is a Canadian company, so maybe different rules apply.
That would sting twice as bad for Fox paying 3/4 of a billion to a Canadian company considering how much the US political right hates Canada. In trumps words “the Canadians have been screwing us for years” (said during trade talks)
Dominion was founded in Canada, but it’s not exclusively a Canadian company – its headquarters are split between Toronto and Denver. I’m not sure of the exact corporate structure but I imagine that the Fox settlement would go to its US division, be taxable by the IRS, and its US-based legal expenses would be deductible from its US taxes.
In fact Dominion’s US presence is far more important than its Canadian one as that’s where it gets virtually all its business. I’m not aware of Canadian elections at any level using any voting machines, Dominion’s or anyone else’s.
Ontario has used Dominion machines to count votes in its last two provincial elections.
Ah, OK, thanks. I had in fact thought perhaps there was a distinction between voting machines (machines operated by the voter to cast their ballot) and vote counting machines that count paper ballots. I have never seen voting machines as such in Canadian elections, but have no idea what goes on in the back rooms when votes are tallied. Clearly Dominion does business in Canada. Thanks for the clarification.
Pulaski County AR has scanners we feed our ballots to. Perhaps the Canadian officials scan ballots at some other location.
What, overpricing maple syrup?
So, where does the $787 million come from? Does FoxNews (and other media outlets) have insurance for stuff like that? Would it cover such a huge award? Does FoxNews just have an account sitting around with that much moolah doing nothing much? Surely that account would be in gold coins or other precious metals.