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False. Unless you’re talking about something other than the famous PNAC document, which absolutely did not say they “wanted” it to happen. If that’s the case - cite?Opinion.Laughably unrealistic and you know it.
Cite? Pretty sure this is a UL Can you explain how this is relevant? I don’t understand.Why are the Democrats the ones who need to look? If there is evidence, why don’t YOU gather it and present it to the proper authorities?
I don’t think even the president could pardon himself from treason, mass murder, etc.
Cite? Look I know you need to believe this so bad that it hurts, but when you start saying things like no one cares if Bush was behind 9/11 it’s offensive, so pony up some proof or tone it down a little bit, ok?
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Did you not see post #57? The one right above yours?
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I tend to believe theories that there have been some great innovations in energy saving motors for cars, but that the large oil companies have worked hard to keep them off the market. And considering billions of dollars in oil profits have been made recently, it doesn’t take a stretch of the imagination to think lots of money could have been paid out to stop/buy patents for new designs and tuck them away.
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Then why haven’t the Japanese, who have no oil and no major oil drilling companies, seized on all these alternative energy sources?
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It’s interesting because besides its close relations with the Turkish military which often has its own agenda, different from that of the Turkish government) Israel has long backed certain Kurdish organizations, as part of its policy of supporting non-Arab groups in the Middle East. Ocalan was allied with Syria, wasn’t he? That helps explain things.
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Interesting - but the Turks aren’t Arabs either, are they? So, why would Israel lean towards the Kurds?
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I sincerely believe that little trolls run around my bedroom at night rearranging items; particularly keys or items desperately needed in the next 24 hours.
In all sincerity, this is the only conspiracy theory yet listed that I am willign to grant any traction to at all. Given Putin’s apparent attitude towards the press, the democratic process, and the willingness to engage in or at least not earnestly prosecute those that have engaged in politically convenient killings… well, I wouldn’t use the term impossible even if it isn’t the most likely answer.
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Thanks. I also believe that the Russian government was responsible for poisoning Yuschenko (non-fatally, fortunately), killing Anna Politkovskaya, and poisoning Alexander Litvenenko with polonium (nasty, horrible death) - but sadly, these aren’t terribly outlandish beliefs. Pretty much mainstream, unless I’m mistaken.
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Interesting - but the Turks aren’t Arabs either, are they? So, why would Israel lean towards the Kurds?
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Israel supported the Kurds against Saddam Hussein, and supports them against Syria and against Iran (who also aren’t Arabs, of course, but are still hostile). When it comes to the Turks, it has to pull of a balancing act, and try to make nice with two parties that hate each other. That’s why it makes sense that we helped capture Ocalan - we take down one pro-Syrian Kurdish leader to appease the Turks, and get them to overlook our support of more moderate, pro-Western Kurds.
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That Bush and his fellow neocons knew 9-11 was going to happen ( but were not directly behind it ), and deliberately cleared the way for the 9-11 attacks in order to create the “new Pearl Harbor” the PNAC types said they wanted, in order to push their agenda.
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I seriously doubt this one, but it can’t be conclusively ruled out either. There is historical precedent for a government to allow an attack on it’s territory to further the greater good.
Whether or not 9/11 actually furthered a greater good is the topic of another debate.
The CT I subscribe to is that Bush had no evidence that Saddam had WMDs and had the data cherry-picked to validate our entry into Iraq. For the greater good.
I believe that FDR deliberately provoked the Japanese into striking before the U.S. entered WWII. I believe it was cold, calculating and was carried on over 2 years. I believe he expected a surprise attack but didn’t expect the Pearl Harbor attack to be so initially damaging…but he did expect it and was happy it happened.
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That Bush and his fellow neocons knew 9-11 was going to happen ( but were not directly behind it ), and deliberately cleared the way for the 9-11 attacks in order to create the “new Pearl Harbor” the PNAC types said they wanted, in order to push their agenda.
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I don’t know what to think any more re 9/11.
I’m on the mailing list of some guy who really doesn’t trust Bush and his guys. He’s telling anyone who will listen to stay out of the subways in New York and Washington, D.C. on the Fourth of July weekend (from Thursday the third through Sunday the sixth), because he fears there will be a bombing incident designed to frighten people into voting for the Republican nominee (like, this was planned months ago, before they knew who the nominee would be). AFAIK he has nothing to base this on but his own mistrust of Bush.
Just thought I’d share, in case you know somebody who lives in NYC or DC.
There’s also some documentary that claims that you can see on videotape of the burning WTC towers some kind of melting metal, that is meant to indicate that the towers were rigged with something to help them collapse. Part of the claim is that there is no reason why anything should be burning or melting at the corner of the building, far from where the plane hit.
I can’t think about this stuff. It upsets me too much. It’s horrible whether it’s true or not. Either it’s true and somebody’s getting away with something monstrous, or it’s not true but we can’t be sure because these guys are so untrustworthy and secretive. And either way I can’t do anything about it.
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Israel supported the Kurds against Saddam Hussein, and supports them against Syria and against Iran (who also aren’t Arabs, of course, but are still hostile). When it comes to the Turks, it has to pull of a balancing act, and try to make nice with two parties that hate each other. That’s why it makes sense that we helped capture Ocalan - we take down one pro-Syrian Kurdish leader to appease the Turks, and get them to overlook our support of more moderate, pro-Western Kurds.
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Sure. It was created by CIA to kill gays and blacks.
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While I don’t believe it was released intentionally, I’m not convinced the HIV virus wasn’t engineered as a possible bioweapon which somehow got out there accidentally,* a la * The Stand, and the circumstances covered up as much as possible.
Is the idea that Bush & Co. knew there were no WMDs but lied to invade still a CT? If so, I believe that one.
Other than that, the only one that I am not sure about is the Ohio elections in 2004. No real proof, but there are a lot of questionable things that happened then, which make me go :dubious:.
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While I don’t believe it was released intentionally, I’m not convinced the HIV virus wasn’t engineered as a possible bioweapon which somehow got out there accidentally,* a la * The Stand, and the circumstances covered up as much as possible.
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Do you have any evidence that it might have been a bioweapon that somehow got out there by mistake? If not, you can be convinced otherwise.
I will never believe that Reagan and Bush I weren’t fully aware of, and participated in, both the Iran/Contra scandal, as well as the delay in Iran releasing our hostages until moments after Reagan’s inauguration.
Another; I suspect that the mysterious anthrax letter attacks were attempts by the Republicans to kill off Democratic Congressmen for political advantage. And to spread fear of terrorism at the same time.
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While I don’t believe it was released intentionally, I’m not convinced the HIV virus wasn’t engineered as a possible bioweapon which somehow got out there accidentally,* a la * The Stand, and the circumstances covered up as much as possible.
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Would HIV really make an effective bioweapon though? The time it takes for advancement into AIDS and the difficulty of effectively spreading it seems like it would be impractical, unless you either infected a tiny polygamous third world country or were counting on it being a damn long war where it had chances to spread.
(No, I’m not debating, I’m actually wondering if HIV could make an effective bioweapon as it stands my knowledge of HIV pretty much extends to “it’s bad” and “things to avoid doing if you don’t want it” and maybe a couple general effects).
My conspiracy theory that I know is 100% true:
90% of all conspiracy theories are made by aliens, 20% of that 90 are made up by alien ghosts. It’s a fact!
