What constitutes a 'private' conversation?

Imagine you’re in a restaurant and there is a couple two tables away that is having a rather loud conversation. They say something that offends you, can you respond?
When does a private conversation become not-so-private to the point that others may chime in?
If you’re standing in line at the grocery and you overhear someone talking about your best friend in a derogatory manner can you step in? What if it was a political conversation and they were exchanging ‘facts’ that you knew were incorrect, would you step in and correct them?

Feel free to answer the above Q’s and also please add your own scenario for others to respond to.
What I’d like to see is a general discussion about when it’s ok to interject into another conversation and when it’s not. Along those lines, when it’s ok to assume that the conversation you are having with someone else is private or if you should expect that others may enter into it if they feel they need to correct you or if they are offended by what you are saying.
I know it’s a pretty broad topic, but I’d like to get some examples thrown out there and some responses to those examples.

Start throwing and responding.

My husband said “fuck” at Walmart (who wouldn’t?) and a woman chastised him for it. The word is fairly mainstream these days, and her comment that it was a family store made me laugh out loud.

Generally, my feeling is that if you want a private conversation, you ought to hold it in a place where others can’t hear it. I’ll occasionally chime in on General Bullshit conversations, but if a couple is having it out in a restaurant, I won’t say anything. Sometimes ya gotta address the issue on the spot.

You can do whatever you want (as long as it’s within the law – no assault and battery, for instance). If you wish to comment, you may do so. If it’s in a public place, you certainly can join in, though you might be told to mind your own business.

Were you listening to the “Early Spin” this morning US? :smiley:

I think there are strong cultural differences to this. It’s hilarious to watch people on the subway in Toronto, who will go to great lengths to pretend that they are each the only person on the train. If you try to include them in a conversation, they will look awkward and try to edge away from you.

This in contrast to places like Brazil (which I witnessed) and Zimbabwe (which I’m told), where all the people around you are considered part of your immediate experience, and talking to strangers is no big deal at all.

On a subway in Toronto, it is highly unlikely that anyone will interrupt your conversation, no matter how much your conversation deserves interruption. (Although strangers may silently exchange meaningful eye-rolling “hey check out
these idiots” kinds of glances.)

One time on a crowded subway, there was a guy who clearly wanted to be talked to (you can pick 'em out of a crowd), so I talked to him, and immediately everyone started looking awkward and avoiding looking at us. It got to the point that I was basically taunting them, because I KNEW they were all listening and that nobody would say ANYTHING. Funny shit.

Busted.

There are some conversations you can legitimately listen in on and contribute to, namely the pleasant, harmless sort. If the people next to you on the bus are chatting about the weather, I think you might mention that a high-pressure front is supposed to move in on the weekend, or if there are some strangers in line with you at the movie are trying to decide what restaurant to go to, it would be acceptible to excuse yourself for eavesdropping, and suggest your favorite Indian place.

Butting in to correct a stranger on anything but the most trivial topics, though, is just rude. There’s a time and place for fighting ignorance. The only exception would be to protect someone from danger. If you overhear someone say, “I hear that the best way to clean mildew is with an equal mixture of ammonia and bleach!” then you would be right to jump in—after apologizing profusely for having overheard, of course.

If people are arguing heatedly, I think it’s politest to pretend that you can’t hear. They really oughtn’t quarrel in public, but sometimes Emotions Run High, and I hope that others might extend me the same courtesy if I should have a lapse. More to the point, I certainly don’t see the attraction of involving yourself in someone else’s messy scene—or causing such a scene, as in the OP’s example of hearing someone criticizing a friend of yours. In that case it would take inhuman willpower to ignore what is being said, but getting huffy with strangers over a conversation that does not include you is Just Not Done, so IMHO you should just Bite Your Tongue and Fume Silently. On the other hand, I think you have every right to report what you heard to your friend if you think they ought to know—the gossipers were indiscreet, and you are not under any obligation to hold their remarks in confidence.

If someone says something broadly offensive in public, I really don’t see the benefit of upbraiding them for it, though a dirty look might be in order. If they’re the sort of person who would use an ethnic slur, for example, within earshot of strangers, they are are probably not the sort who would feel shame upon being called on it. If they’ve just slipped up and forgotten themselves, a dirty look should be sufficient to remind them where they are.

If the conversation is intolerable in content and unignorable in terms of volume, I think that one would still do best to ignore the former, and speak to the offending parties about either lowering their tone or taking the discussion to a more appropriate venue.

Restaurants are a special case, in my mind. I think that a table with a party gathered around it, backs to the rest of the world, defines a certain zone of privacy. IMHO, what they’re eating, any personal items they might have with them, and any conversations they’re having are None of Your Business. Naturally your eye might fall upon them, and you will accidentally overhear snippets, but you should do your best to ignore them. Even if you should come across some friends of yours dining, you should just give a friendly greeting and move on unless they invite you to sit down and join their table.

Wing a breadstick at them and you’ll probably be included in their conversation right quick :smiley:

It’s one where you say “Shiver me timbers!” and “Walk the plank!” and “Arrrr, matey!” a lot.

Oh, wait, I misread the thread title.

Yeah, but it’s still not allowed on prime time network TV, and, call me a prude, but I think it ought not be said out loud in public where young children, prim little old ladies, etc. could overhear.

Oddly enough, my dad’s company had an actual policy - you can’t butt into a conversation unless one of your direct reports is involved.

I think the thing to go by is what’s offended you in the past… and what you haven’t minded. All bets are off, of course, if the party at the table next to you seems to be plotting a terrorist attack.

Under no circumstances. While I was having lunch with my girlfriend at the time, we were discussing gray areas in whether it’s OK for a woman to have an abortion. This discussion, of course, is potentially offensive to both pro-lifers and pro-choicers. But it was our conversation. This woman stepped in and upbraided us for even suggesting in public that an abortion is acceptable under any circumstance. The management asked her to leave.

Bars are different. You’re sitting in a row, and it’s generally OK to at least try to join in a conversation… ONCE. Exception would be a couple on a date, although I have not minded when I’ve been on dates and the guy next to me tells me that what I was about to order was the best thing on the menu. So long as they leave it at that.

Depends. Do you know these people?

Probably not. If they were talking about directions, on the other hand, and said something that I knew to be incorrect, I would find a diplomatic way to let them know they’re direx aren’t quite right. Then I’d step back unless invited to continue the conversation.

In general, I think it’s like knocking on a door. Politely make one remark, and only stay in the conversation if invited in.

Oddly enough, back in the days when I was a roleplayer, we often got together in a pub and had conversations that sounded just like planning a terrorist attack.
“How are we going to blow up the base?” “do we have enough semtex?” …

Where you are matters a great deal. When I smoked, it always seemed to be a convention that smokers out on a porch can just open up conversations wiht each other. Student Unions, dorms, and laundromats seem to provide a more congenial atmosphere for jumping into conversations. Specialty enviroments–gaming stores, professional conventions, public lectures and plays, etc.–seem to encourage people to join conversations that are on-topic.

I think there is also an “amazing coincidence” rule. If you are in line behind a couple in a gelatto stand in Rome and you gather from their conversation that they from the same small town in Oklahoma as your father and likely went to school with him, you can interject.