After some thought, I decided not to post this in the pit. I can’t help but think there is some kind of problem beyond the obvious.
This one is very close to home.
What troubles me is that this is not like the “typical” murder suicide case. It’s more like the one where the woman (Smith?) strapped her kids in a car and let it roll into a lake, blaming a mysterious stranger.
Maybe these people never bonded with their kids. It hurts to think about it.
I know it’s not a very satisfying answer, but crazy is as crazy does. She was told to choose between her daughter and her boyfriend and chose to kill her daughter to keep the boyfriend. Apart from the fact that SHE’S KILLING HER OWN DAUGHTER, did she really think that would enable her to keep her boyfriend? She’s either insane or on heavy drugs or both. Sane people don’t do things like this, and you can’t reason with someone who does something like this. The only thing you can do is try to figure out what brand of crazy it is and try to learn how to stop it in others.
Yeah… these things cannot be predicted (except with hindsight). One wonders if there might have been any clues preceding the event, not that it would have helped prevent this tragedy.
I believe this happens very very often. A woman decides that the only way to keep her b/f is to kill her child, it’s common and legal and called abortion. Yes some women who do this don’t consider that child a human, but some absolutely know that is her child and decide to do it anyway.
There are also people who choose between having normal human relationships and injecting religion into every conversation. They know that they are sacrificing friendships, but they do it anyway.
kanicbird Thank you for your input. While I am not a fan of abortion when used as means of mitigating shaky relationships, I would have been more prepared for such a response if I had chosen to post this to the pit.
This doesn’t sound crazy to me at all. Just very, very, very selfish. Plumbing the very depths of pure, amoral selfishness.
Love, or some illusion of love, can make people very stupid and self-centered. It makes people kill themselves all the time. And now and then it makes people kill each other. Men kill inconvenient wives on a pretty regular basis, and historically a lo of them get away with it. Killing inconvenient children is bound to happen at least now and then.
You will not insult posters in Great Debates. You are completely out of line in this post. If you feel sufficiejntly upset, then flame the poster in The BBQ Pit; do not do it here.
Do not repeat this behavior.
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That said, Kanicbird, you have made your point. It is one that it not accepted by the other posters in this thread, (or by the Supreme Court), so having now made it, you will drop the hijack.
EVERYONE: that is not part of this thread. Anyone wishing to argue the point open a new thread in GD or the Pit.
There’s been at least one instance, back in the late-'50s/early-'60s, in which the mother didn’t want anything, not even their children, taking her husband’s attention away from her. So she killed the kids. Nobody knew this was happening at the time, they thought she just had post-partum depression and that the kids were victims of what is now considered SIDS.
Thirded. I think “incredibly selfish, narcissistic, and unconcerned with others” fits the bill much more than “crazy”. Too often, I think, mental illness is used to explain just out and out selfishness.