It’s the middle of December and the middle of the Holy Days. I have a question for the ‘saved’ here.
What holy days did Jesus Christ Celebrate? He didn’t celebrate Christmas as we do. Sure there may have been a little party and cake for his birthday, but not a religious celebration.
Because he was **Jewish[\b], did he celebrate Jewish holy days? If he did, then why don’t his present day followers celebrate the same holy days?
I’m not to keen on religion, but this is a question that has always bugged people when I’ve asked it.
Good thing I wasn’t drinking anything when I read your message, Phil.
Um, Daniel, what “holy days” are we in the middle of? Hanukkah? During Jesus’ time, it was a holiday of small importance. Since Jesus wasn’t actually born in December, he wouldn’t have even had a cake.
As a devout Jew, Jesus would have celebrated all of the Jewish Holy days in the manner of first century Judaism. (Seems easy enough.)
Christians do not follow the Jewish Holy days because by the end of the first century Christianity had broken with Judaism pretty thoroughly. (Heretical movements rarely stay in close contact with the groups from which they separate.) The vast majority of new converts were from the pagan religions of the Hellenistic Roman world. Those converts had no awareness of Jewish practices and invented their own traditions, based on their understanding of the life of Jesus rather than the religious practices of Jesus.
David B, I realise that no one alive today knows when Jesus was born. The year is pretty much nailed down to sometime around 4 BC as we figure dates. But to try to figure out the month or day would be totally impossible.
I said we were in the middle of the holy days, now in the present. I’m sorry if you mistakenly understood my post to mean that Christmas is the absolute and undeniable birthday of Jesus. The cake thing was in reference to the celebration of his birthday, not Hanukah!
In the here and now:
Would a Christian be ridiculed for celebrating Jewish holy days like Jesus did? Would they go to Hell in the opinion of other Christians?
Second thing:
Pldennison, that was a lame joke. I’m not religious, but I know that it takes a sick individual to make a joke about someone’s pain, suffering, and death.
Guess I won’t be sharing any of my JFK/Princess Di/Jeffery Dahmer/Heaven’s Gate jokes anytime soon. I thought it was pretty funny; I tell one very similar.
Poppycock. If you want to argue about it, I’ll see you in the Pit, but the fact is humor has been a mechanism for dealing with suffering and death since time immemorial, and if you don’t like it, too bad.
“The way things are going, they’re going to crucify me.” – John Lennon
Dammit! Manhattan got to the “nailed down” reference before I could! Anyway, Daniel said:
And I asked what days – Christmas is one day (ok, 12 days in the song – is that what you mean?).
Er, yes, I know. Did you read my message? I specifically talked about the cake in reference to his birthday. Hello? Anybody home?
The answer is that you can find many reasons for one Christian to ridicule another. It’s happened many times here on this very message board. So the answer is almost certainly “yes.”
But there are Christians who celebrate Jewish holy days – Jews for Jesus.
I doubt it, but then some would probably say yes (there are some Christians who think any celebration of birthdays, even, are against the rules).
for his birthday, but not a religious celebration.