What do Trump voters think now?

ICE agents will just walk down the street in normal clothes, and purposely bump into people. If the impacted party says “Sorry!”, demand ID.

You see that a lot in Minnesota?

I’ll just link to my replied in the thread that you started to tout what is apparently a very exciting piece of news for you: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20157965&postcount=8

:slight_smile: The amazing fact is, even with Trump’s unpopularity very high, the poll shows that if the election was held today, he’d actually win the popular vote against Hillary Clinton. And that’s with the constant neo-McCarthyite barrage of anti-Russian hysteria, extremely negative anti-Trump press every day etc. etc. etc.

Stings doesn’t it?

Again, the OP asked “what do Trump voters think now?”. The answer is, according to that poll, that they’d still vote for Trump against Hillary, and in bigger proportions than in November.

Same answer. If the people who didn’t vote this last time were to vote, have you the faintest hope that they would break in favor of Trump? Given, just as you say, his unpopularity? The logic underlying the conclusion eludes me.

The logic is simple. Every presidential election there is this unrelenting “this is the most consequential election evah!” hysteria from both sides. Massive negative advertising, fear-mongering, etc. etc. And yet, EVERY time the turnout is about the same. For the last 50 years it bounced in a tight range between 50% and 57% of the total eligible voter population. Most times right around 55%. That’s pretty consistent.

Yet you think for some reason the turnout will suddenly shoot up? Hope springs eternal, I guess.

Correction to previous: instead of “eligible voter population” should be “voting age population”.

Does the poll take into account the well documented psychological effect that after an election more people will report having voted than actually voted? Furthermore, does it take into account that those who lie about having voted are more likely to claim they voted for the winner? If not, then I wouldn’t put too much stock in it.

The following poll demonstrates the futility of expecting Republican voters to respond to simple facts:

[QUOTE=Wesley]
Twenty-eight percent said they think former President George W. Bush, who was in office at the time, was more responsible for the poor federal response while 29 percent said Obama, who was still a freshman U.S. Senator when the storm battered the Gulf Coast in 2005, was more responsible. Nearly half of Louisiana Republicans — 44 percent — said they aren’t sure who to blame.

[/QUOTE]

It may also be futile to imagine that most right-wing cognition is even goal-oriented:

Easy-peasy. At the higher intellectual levels the Left-Right divide is largely the divide between human rights and property rights. The left sympathizes with the human; the right with the corporation on whose property the human was “trespassing.”

But most right-wingers are incapable of a reasoned comparison between human rights and property rights: their reactions are visceral. (Studies have shown that right-wingers are far more responsive to amygdalar influences than average humans.) In the incident a white cop mistreats an Asian, and people react emotionally, almost instinctively. Of course the numbers would be much less skewed (or skewed the other way) if a black cop mistreated a white.

No he didn’t and no it wasn’t. In 2006 he was audited on his 2003 and 2004 tax years and informed that he needed to pay his self employment taxes. He did not pay the taxes for 2001 and 2002 until he was nominated to be secretary of treasury.

I am insisting that it is very unlikely that this was an honest mistake. This is a “is he lying or stupid” sort of situation. This is not some background issue for people working at the IMF. You are informed when you start and then reminded every year that you are responsible for self employment tax.

we are in the middle of Thrump’s effort to resurrect the repeal and replacement of the ACA vote in the house. The new compromise (between R’s, not overall) gives states the right to customize how they apply the new law, allowing insurance companies to drop the extended coverage, pre existing conditions, and federal infusion into medicare, etc… the Republican congressman being interviewed on MSNBC, a Freedom Caucus member, said he would vote for the new version if for no other reason than the R’s promised to repeal Obamacare and, by God, he was going to keep his promise, regardless of the fact that 61% of the population now want the ACA to be tweeked, not repealed.

Doing something because you said you would, in the face of reason, facts and decency is how I define the R party these days.

On so many issues now, ones that Thrump’s campaign speeches hammered at, Nafta, Health Care, Nato, etc. etc., Thrump has admitted that after being fully briefed by the experts, he had to change his mind, that things are far more complicated than he had believed and that he is still the most successful new president there ever was with the biggest crowds, margin of victory and best ideas how to make American great again, so his base will understand.

My very low opinion of this clown rose a point or two recently when he began saying the right things about the holocaust and about teachers. He is still an idiot, but he isn’t as doctrinare stupid as I thought he might be.

Ice is quite common in Minnesota

Voters in this Democratic part of Colorado backed Trump. After 100 days, they have no regrets.

“In nearly three dozen interviews with Trump voters — Democrats, independents and Republicans who had their doubts — not one said they regretted supporting him.”

How could they? He hasn’t accomplished anything for them TO regret.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk

If he manages to flush out all the undocumented workers, they will simply regard it as their patriotic duty to pay ten dollars a head for iceberg lettuce at the Piggly Wiggly . Or blame Obama.

When their brother in law calls hoping to raise money to buy medicine for his daughter. Hey, family bake sales! When corporate America decides that your tap water is their toilet, hey! Job creators!

If Trump gets his way, the future for the Republican Party may be darker than even they deserve. But the cost in human suffering is too high. On my best day, I’d rather lose. And if I had more of those days, I’d be a better person.

I understand this but i think it’s important that we don’t fall for this as a permanent lowering of the bar that defines acceptable presidential behavior.

Yes, I’m glad that the POTUS and I both share the opinion that the holocaust 1) happened and 2) was bad.*. I’m sure we both also agree that feeding small children to wild animals for entertainment is bad, as well.

But this isn’t going to make me change my mind about Trump, not even a little bit.

*At the risk of a major hijack, when I think about how many Holocaust deaths would have been prevented had the Allied countries been more welcoming to Jewish refugees it makes me snarky about Holocaust Remembrance. We should at least recognize that we never learn.

Not even when we make a National Historic Site out of our past stupidity. :frowning:

Scumpup wrote: " One young lady I know likes to peruse this very board just to savor the anti-Trump frothings."

I hope she’ll find us just as entertaining, say, a year from now.

Probably faking it. Like those tighty-righty posters who start out their lame laments with “I am entertained that…”, or “I find it amusing that…” Tighty rightys have no actual sense of humor, its the only reason Dennis Miller still cashes any paychecks.

'Course, maybe not. Depends. Does this young lady post “candid photos”? Is this fascination with “anti-Trump frothings” some kind of kinky pervo sex thing? When she gets her fill, will she either shut up or go away?

Asklng for a friend. Not that one, the other one.