While I have no knowledge of the actual stat and I think that Der Trihs is overstating the situation, your counter-point is missing some logic.
That project was started by 1 guy and I think it was with his own funds and he handled as many cases as he could by himself. Not sure how many people work on that project these days, but there is somewhat of a “tip of the iceberg” situation here given their bandwidth vs the number of people incarcerated. Also, they don’t just do rape cases, they handle all types, which makes it a slower process to get at the incorrect rape verdict stat.
Except that I’m pretty sure that’s a list of ALL DNA exoneration cases, not just the ones that they were involved with. And the link that I provided was sorted to just the rape cases, although it may not have worked correctly for others.
From their website.
There have been 265 post-conviction DNA exonerations in the United States.
That’s total. Not just rapes. 265. So yes, I think that we can agree that Der Trihs is “overstating”.
I’m certainly not implying that my cite is definitive, just indicative.
Yes, and how many cases have been re-tried? It’s very difficult to extrapolate much from that number other than the fact that there is some unknown but non-zero percentage of cases in which people have been found guilty in the absence of DNA evidence at the time that have subsequently been found innocent when DNA evidence was used.
2 things skew this number:
I believe they only take cases that appear to them (this particular project) that the person is indeed innocent based on some preliminary analysis
There are limited resources to re-try cases
I think you are inferring much more than is reasonable based on that limited data.
“False Rape Allegations” by Eugene Kanin, Archives of Sexual Behavior Feb 1994 v23 n1 p81 (12), found 41% of all claims over a nine year period were false.
He also studied two state universities and found that 50% of the 64 rape claims were false.
McDowell, Charles P., Ph.D. “False Allegations.” Forensic Science Digest, (publication of the U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations), Vol. 11, No. 4 (December 1985), p. 64.
This one found 60% false claim rate.
The percentages are all over the place, but it is clear that false rapes occur frequently. Furthermore, rape is often proved on the basis of one eye-witness’s testimony. As a result, it is impossible to fault a man who records, and keeps private, his sexual encounters.
I can’t speak to the McDowell study, I don’t know much about it, and can’t find any reference to it online that isn’t from a blatantly biased source. I’ll keep looking though.
Never heard of Frank S. Zepezauer, so did a google search. Died laughing
Can we please keep the precise number of false rape accusations for another thread and imply accept that a significant number are false and use that to move on?
In Pennsylvania, recording someone without their consent or knowledge is a misdemeanor.
Cracked has a great article called “Six Reasons Homemade Porn Is a Worse Idea Than You Think”. (I’d link to it, but it’s NSFW due to language and title.) It’s worth reading and pondering.
We could I suppose, but it’s actually a more interesting question than “is it okay to tape your sexual encounters without your partners’ consent” which can be very simply answered with “No, you sleazy fucktard*.”
But would being captured by an installed security camera be considered the same as, for example, setting up a tripod in a closet to capture a single session - me thinks not
So your think that it’s crazy to trust a woman you have sex with to not accuse you of rape, but it’s completely reasonable to trust a man to keep his dishonestly obtained sextapes private?
“I’m not sleazy, I’m just doing this sleazy thing just in case YOU turn out to be sleazy!!!”
Seriously, have y’all by any chance smoked a whole bunch of crack today?
Me thinks trying to convince a judge that you had the camera pointed towards the bed instead of the window or door because that’s where you think intruders will enter the room will cause laughter in the courtroom.
It means I can achieve my goals with a video tape. She can achieve hers by jumping up and down to establish the societal expectation that women are innocent angels who would never fabricate, prevaricate, or lie. And as such their claims should be taken at face value. Guilt until innocence proven, and all that.