Prefer not to say.
(1) Marriage with an individual from the same group;
(2) Attempting to instill a sense of identity in any sons or daughters resulting from said marriage.
Why do you ask?
I’ll try a third time to ask brazil84 my questions:
Do you believe interracial marriage is morally wrong, or is it just an aesthetic preference for you? If you believe it’s morally wrong, do you believe it should be illegal?
@brazil84,
Even tough I voted “Yay! Cross-cultural acceptance!”, I liked the way you defended your opinion. And I think you have got a point. Skald the Rhymer just tried to deviate the argument. And people who are “trying” to debate with him is doing nothing more than forcing him to make a mistake which will cause him to be regarded as racist.
There are interracial couples. There was interracial couples in the past. And, there will definitely be interracial couples in the future. Everyone will prefer what they like.
Imagine thinking someone who wants to preserve the white race and who thinks that some races are superior to others is a racist. The nerve!
Thank you! By the way, I don’t care if people in this thread call me “racist” so long as they are clear and principled about their definition of racism. My views are what they are. By some definitions of racism, I would be considered racist.
I do object if people misrepresent my position. For example, I did not assert that one race was superior to another. To make that kind of claim of superiority, you first need to specify criteria for ascertaining who or what is considered superior.
Yeah, we’ve been through that minefield of cow pies. The “dumber” race isn’t inferior because who knows? They might have an advantage in a dance or slam-dunk contest. I’m ready to lay my life savings on which race— and which advantage— you claim as your own, and why you’re so invested in keeping membership exclusive.
Guess what: things aren’t going your way. Quite the opposite, in fact. Bet that really eats at you.
Skald’s argument centers on the idea that there is no biological context for race (outside of the fact that we’re all human), though I think for arguments sake, it’s better served by reshaping and reestablishing parts of the discussion. However, to be fair, I don’t think it deviates from the topic, when compared to quotes like the one below:
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[li]“In the Polar Bear example, one can imagine a situation a few generations before Polar Bears are completely assimilated and disappear. At that time, there will be a small number of Polar Bears; a large number of Brown Bears; and a medium number of mixed Bears. In your view, does that situation have more “actual diversity” than a situation where Brown Bears and Polar Bears are distinct, separate groups?”[/li][/ul]
^^ C’mon. 
We’re certainly not forcing him to make “a mistake” (after all, his position is a preference, and that’s been my understanding). The problem is that there isn’t sound logic behind his reasoning; in itself, it’s not bolstered well by “counter-questioning” (in place of analytical discussion), because it eventually serves as a deflection.
Then there is the problem of consistency.
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[li]“FWIW I disapprove of interracial couples. I see value in having a diversity of races and ethnic groups and interracial mating undermines that value.” […] “The value is that I like it.”[/li][/ul]
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[li]“If somebody wants to make an argument rejecting racial distinctions, then they need to be explicit about their criteria for accepting or rejecting distinctions in general. Otherwise, they are just engaged in emotion-driven special pleading.”[/li][/ul]
If we parse meaning from the second quote, and apply to the first, his stance falls into the category of “emotion-driven special pleading”. This is why support for his argument turns circular and comes across as bigoted (which he acknowledges, isn’t outside the realm of his ideas).
Reaffirms my observations…most of the IR couples I knew, broke up. One, a female classmate, who was and still is IR marriage, wanted to have an affair with me, which nixes the old saying.
Well, most of the interracial couples I know are happily married with kids.
My classmate has kids, and as far as her IR husband knows, is happily married
Another couple in florida, he was one of my best friends, but cheated on her every chance he got…this guy was a magnet…and he always went for white women. I just found out this month they divorced. He was the life of any party…easily could have made it big in Hollywood…semi pro singer and dancer, quite the conversationalist.
And the young pretty girl i mentioned in another OP that im dating from Chicago…shes white, had 2 girls, from 2 black guys, only one married her…now divorced. By the way i was amazed to hear her say she hates obama and voted for mitt.
In fact, right now, i know of no IRs that are still happily together, if they are at all.
So what? Does your limited personal experience lead you to believe that interracial couples are all doomed to failure?
Each were in different states, different circumstances, albeit a small sampling size, …but then, so are the Neillson Ratings.
However, i do know one odd IR couple, still going at it, in a way…she was married to white guy #1, while banging the black guy…divorced #1, married white guy #2, and is still having the affair with the black guy…she now has a 2 yr old from #2…my family has known her for yrs, in person she and i act as if we are strangers…but on facebook private msgs, she has been confiding in me for 5 yrs, thru it all, including her having an affair with a white woman…she finally asked me this month when we were going to get together…so yeh, i guess you could say they have stayed together as an IR couple all these years…ps, no i haven’t…call me old school, but i am still in shock from her asking me.
I hardly think that the number of people you know is comparable to the number of people polled for Nielsen ratings.
The fact that you know a lot of unhappy interracial couples doesn’t mean anything beyond the fact that you know a lot of unhappy interracial couples. I’m sure other people would say they know a lot of happy interracial couples. Interracial couples don’t all deal with the same kinds of problems.
Statistically, black woman/white man couples are significantly less likely to divorce than single race white couples.
I’d have to agree. Last I read, the divorce rate in the US was as high as 50%? Regardless, not enough interracial married couples exist in this country, to account for a large portion of that number. Sounds like it greater reflects the social landscape, where people are being people, for any number of reasons.
That said, I do think it’s fair to say that race (to include anything associated), can be a factor. I know of one couple in specific, who had some challenges related to their interpersonal relationship. In this occurrence, it was due to their families conflicting with each other (which in this example, was an extension of culture/faith). Their families inability to co-exist, lead to struggles for the two in the actual relationship, though to this day, they persevere. In fact, this more highlights what takes place when exploring cultural-shift; they’ve moved away from the more conservative ideas of their families, and sought to preserve those which benefited them and their child.
Doesn’t even ping my radar. Mind you, I think the UK is a lot less touchy about race than some areas. I don’t think inter-racial couples have been noteworthy in this country for as long as I can remember (say, since the 1980s at least).
Not Brazil, presumably, which is one of the most gloriously mixed nations on earth.
Cite?
I already did earlier in the thread, but here it is again.
Yep. In South London where I live, interracial couples are ridiculously common (usually - but hardly exclusively - black male/white female). Nobody cares apart from the racist fringe, and nobody cares what the racist fringe think.