Ok so please debate on this, I hope you all like to do away with this bill.
Welcome to the SDMB, happydays546! Usually we prefer more of an actual argument in the opening post (OP). And remember what the boys in Monty Python say, an argument isn’t just contradicting everything the other person says!
Sure would, i’d like to do away with it and replace it with socialized universal healthcare. But what we have will do for the moment, i’m sure the rest will come along in time.
I agree. The Affordable Care Act is far too conservative. It’s essentially the Republican plan from the 90’s which liberals opposed at the time for being too generous to the insurance companies. Still, it’s better than nothing, and if we continue to apply political pressure we may eventually be able to get proper public health care in the United States.
Personally I think it’s way too much, it should be 12 pages at most. No human can be expected to read 200 pages.
Ideally they should make a comic and put the bill in the speech bubble.
It is not 200, it is 2000, but I see what you mean, I would not read more then 100, unless I need to in order to get a grade.
2000 pages? Holy shit, no wonder they’re so desperate to pass this thing, imagine having to start over!
I strongly disagree with the OP title - when I open the PDF version of the bill it says it is 906 pages long. The reconciliation bill adds another 55. (The ‘public print’ of this bill before it was passed and formatted was 2409 pages, not 2000)
What grade are you in?
jasg when someone says 2000, that means that is a rough number and it is like I heared 2000 something!
It has about as many actual words in it as Sarah Palin’s autobiography. If you could get through that, you could get through the bill.
2,000 pages? That’s nothing! Saddam sent us 13,000 pages just to prove to us he didn’t have any WMDs.
If the Dems were truly desperate, like Saddam, they’d have given us 250,000 pages, minimum.
Dude, that’s just really, like, hardcore mean.
Reading the Health Care Reform bill isn’t that bad!
I doubt she read it herself.
For the record, it is no longer a bill. It is a law. If you want to repeal it, you will need to pass a new law, then get 288 votes in the House, and 67 votes in the Senate to override the President’s veto.
Now, Republicans may pick up a few seats in November, but there is no way in hell they are going to get a margin like that. So this law isn’t going anywhere until you elect a Republican president, and with the Teabaggers splitting the GOP, that is not going to happen in 2012, and probably much longer.
Besides, by the time the 2012 election rolls around, a lot of people are going to see some of the benefits of this law, and opposition is going to deflate. I think the likelihood of this law being altered in the foreseeable future is nil.
From your lips to the Ears, but in the wondrous chaos that is democracy, there is no such thing as “nil”. Alas.
Yes it is!
As the boys in Monty Python actually say.
Don’t let the page count throw you off. Most of it was just cut and pasted from other sources by an intern based on things she read before. The opening sentence is “It was the best of times, it was the worst of times” for god’s sake.
Or just get a handful of activist judges to rule it unconstitutional. Or is it only Democrats that can do that?