What does it mean to be an American?

A friend sent me the Gordon Sinclair piece. I wrote this
reply-
On a personal note- We live in the greatest nation on
the planet. We enjoy more freedoms than citizens of
any other country. The American Dream is a great and
noble thing. To myself and many others, it is sacred.
Yes, United States has made mistakes in the past. Yes,
it is not a perfect place. Nor does it today, great
that it may be, fulfill the promise of the Dream. But
if mistakes were made, it is the fault of the dreamers
and not the Dream. And if we find fault with this
country, we are partly responsible. For it belongs to
each of us. America is ours to improve and guide. It
is our responsibility to shape the reality of America
closer to the Dream. Thanks to those dreamers who have
gone before us, each American has that power.

 The anti-Islamic, and anti-Arab sentiment growing in this country made me write this-
The terrorist attacks were tragic. There was enough

death amd sorrow for the whole nation. But it will
pale in comparison to what we will see in the next few
months.
Already, an innocent Muslim was beaten by a
Philadelphia cop. The rage and hatred will explode.
Mosques will be destroyed. Islamic men will be
tortured to death or lynched. Their children will be
killed. Women shall have their veils torn off along
with the rest of their clothing- raped by men hiding
in red-white-and blue uniforms, men whose hearts are
black with rage and murder. I’ve heard too many people
call for the extermination of Palestinians. Others say
that this is just angry talk, that such a thing could
never happen. A lot of other people didn’t think such
a thing was possible in the Germany of the 1930’s.
On this day of prayer and remembrance, I pray
that we do not become the monsters we once fought. I
remember the obscenity that killed 6 million Jews and
5 million others. I will say this over and over as
long as I see one American who needs to hear it- NEVER
AGAIN. The Bible tells us “Vengance is mine sayeth the
Lord.” It is one of the most misunderstood passages in
all of literature. Vengance is not ours to carry out.
We do not have the right to destroy whole nations.
Yes, the accomplices of these terrorist must be
brought to justice. Yes, those criminals who planned
these acts and helped bring them about must be made to
pay for their crimes. But, we must stop there.We must
not punish the children for the sins of the fathers.
We must not execute the many for the crimes of the
few. The rage of those terrorists destroyed two
towers. If we are not strong, if we are not vigilant,
our rage will tear down all that this country stands for.

If any one likes these, post’em wherever you feel like.
As for me, My parents vote in every election regardless of how insignificant it may seem. As soon as I turned 18, I registered so I could go to the polls with them. I grew up in northern VA, just 18 ,miles from the White House. I’ve been lucky enough to see the original Constitution and Bill Of Rights, and to sit in the balcony and watch our senators at work. I live in Philadelphia now. Here are Independence Hall and the Liberty Bell. The local media speaks fondly of Ben Franklin as a hometown boy. My landlady is a refusnik, a Soviet Jew who came to America as soon as Glasnost would allow. She sponsors other refusniks. I am surrrounded by people who were born in a nation where eveb going to synagogue was a crime. My great-grandfather fled pogroms in the Ukraine. Here, our freedom to pray as we want (and the right not to pray) are guaranteed by documents that are themselves holy.

  As for flag burning, I can think of no greater demonstration of our freedoms. In so many nations, to criticize the givernment is to sign your own death warrant. In America, we can call the President an idiot and burn the flag-and know that the Bill of Rights protects our right to do so. A protester who waves the flag and a protester who burns it have the same rights. Why? Because this is the greatest county in the world.

DocCathode

How beautiful! Thanks! This page is incredible.

Cnote

Actually, the Libertarian Party was formed in the 1970s by disgruntled Republicans who felt that their party had abandoned its founding principles of individual liberty and justice for all, and had become the party of corporate welfare and perks for the rich.

But if you prefer stasis, you’re in luck. The Republican party has the Liberty Caucus, a decidedly libertarian leaning group with more than 60,000 paid members. It is chaired by Ron Paul, former Libertarian Party presidential candidate and current Republican Congressman from Texas

Lsura and anyone else who shares the question.

Please post this everywhere you see fit. I think the question is important and hold no claim to those words. I wanted it to generate discourse. I want people to see what I had to say in this, because I think it’s important that everyone realize that those calling for the burning of mosques ARE terrorists. I want the news to start calling them such. I want people to re-examine their viewpoint on what it means to them to be an American. I think that’s very important, and if my words can help with that, I’ll be extremely flattered.

DocCathode

Your words expressed a lot of what I am feeling in this.

Erek

Excellent posts, mswas and DocCathode. The United States does stand for principles that must be upheld, regardless of temporary issues of convenience or even safety–otherwise we become that much less worth fighting for. We have sometimes failed in completely maintaining these principles during past crisises, but the degree to which we did maintain them should be a source of pride. Hopefully we will all see past the anger and fear, and realize that we don’t have to abandon ourselves to the shame of scapegoating and repression.

Libertarian: I’m sorry, but that quiz is completely useless. I’m a Republican with many libertarian (small-L) leanings, I vote for Republicans twice as often as for everyone else put together…and this thing classifies me as a left-liberal. Ask me ten different questions, and I’d probably be listed as a right-conservative.

MyserEcks

Well, nothing is perfect. :slight_smile:

I would suggest, however, that simply because there was some failure with respect to your analysis, it is a bit of a leap to declare it summarily to be completely useless. Many of us have found it useful.

I understand Fenris’s complaint, and I agree with him. A good test would be reworded and be more comprehensive. But what you just saw was a deliberately abridged quicky quiz. It really doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that the more liberal you are socially and conservative fiscally, the more libertarian you are.

I rarely sympathize when people complain that this or that ought to be done some other way. I tend to say, well unfold your arms and do it then!

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I read this as “It is chaired by Rue Paul…” and thought: …that’s not correct!

:smiley:

Fenris

Liberarian* said:

If I was a member of the Libertarian Party I would probably suggest that accuracy is a virtue–such quizzes are really just entertainment, but inaccuracy reflects no credit on the organization which sponsors it. And that accuracy is in fact more important than having “the World’s Smallest Political Quiz.” And, for that matter, that the Libertarian Party would probably be better served by something that emphasized the points of agreement with quiz-takers, rather than purporting to identify them as a little red dot on a graph.

But since I’m not a member of the Libertarian Party, my arms will remain folded.

*I’ve kept your T, since you failed to disgorge mine.

Well, the quiz pegged me as a Left-Liberal-do you think it was wrong there?

:wink:

If anyone would like a more comprehensive understanding of Libertarians, please check out some of the material located at http://www.libertarian.org/

I haven’t been on that site in a while and it looks like they have changed the formatting so I am not sure if it still has all the information it used to.