I was driving past a certain house on the way home from work yesterday. This hosue usually has a pro-abortion sign out front, where you can’t help but see it. Sometimes it has graphic pictures of dead babies. It’s driven the property values down, houses across the way are empty, ect. I usually put it out of my mind, even when it says stuff like “Boscov’s supports killing babies.” However, the other day they had a new one: “Planned Parenthood supported by Pedophiles.” Huh? I’m curious as to what the reasoning behind this poster could be in their minds.
Um, those sound like anti-choice posters, not pro-choice (no one is “pro-abortion”).
I think you mean pro-life, or alternatively anti-abortion.
This link probably gives some insight (note, found by Googling, open at your own risk)
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=28007
?? While you are correct on the intended demographic the ads are targeting, isn’t it reaching a bit to say that no one is “pro abortion”? I imagine those choosing to get an abortion are “pro”…
If the link provided by Rube IS the impetus for the said poster, I must say that it is incredibly overstated. It is close to being ridiculous, and I fall on the “pro-life” (anti-choice 
)side of the line…
We know you meant to say “anti-abortion.” :smack:
Among its services, PP offers abortions to pregnant females, including young ones. If a 14 year old girl is pregnant, it might have been by her 15 year old boyfriend, but certainly sometimes its by her father or uncle or some other adult who has no business having sex with a 14 year old. An abortion gets rid of the main evidence, and makes it easier for such a pedophile to get away with it.
Of course, there could be charges and a conviction whether or not there is an abortion, but if the girl never becomes visibly pregnant and no baby arrives, it’s much less likely that questions will be raised by people inclined to pursue the matter. In some folk’s eyes, then, PP is aiding and abetting pedophiles by helping them evade consequences of their actions.
No, I’m pro-choice and might even get an abortion should the situation arise, but I wouldn’t call myself pro-abortion. I’ve heard of the rare example who gets them frequently and thinks nothing of it (though I’ve never met such a woman, always second- or third-hand accounts), and that’d be pro-abortion by my reasoning.
Another link, also found by Googling: http://www.conservativepetitions.com/petitions.php?id=145
The gist seems to be:
No. Abortion, when it’s necessary, is simply a lesser evil. No one who ever had an abortion did it because they wanted to. Not to equate the two, but I’m not pro-root-canal, but I’d do it if I had no choice. Nor do you have to be “pro-violence” to defend yourself from an attack.
“Pro-abortion” is a propaganda term used by anti-choice propagandists, to make it sound like women make the decision lightly.
I don’t get it; wouldn’t pedophiles want more babies born? Especially unwanted babies who’d be more prone to being neglected as they got older?
I mean, I’m sure there have been pedophiles who were vocally pro-choice, but it still seems like a tenuous connection.
That link – if taken at face value, and ignoring how vaguely worded every accusation is – would seem to explain that “Planned Parenthood Supports Pedophiles”, not “[Is] Supported By”…
I’ll agree to disagree and defer the discussion on the pro-abortion topic to another forum… didn’t mean to derail the conversation.
While the behavior described in thudlow’s link is questionable ethically, it is still a stretch to say that that one instance characterizes all of Planned Parenthood’s activities. A nine year age difference with a 13 yr old is quite different than a 2 yr age difference with a 17yr old, for instance, although the second case would still fall under a “teen age girl pregnant by an adult male” legally, you would be a little more hard pressed to qualify said male as a pedophile. It’s a broad generalization trying to villanize Planned Parenthood, and is the type of rhetoric that hurts the argument more than helps it, no matter which side it comes from.
Yes, of course you’re all quite right that I meant to say **anti-**abortion. :smack: :smack:. Oy, I need sleeeep. Thanks for the info though. Apparently those folks are quite up on their arguments, slanted though they are. I feel sorry for the people living across the street though.
The ARGUMENTS are slanted, not the people.
There is a very small proportion of the population that (if they are not doing the real-life equivalent of trolling) is in fact “pro-abortion” – they favor women aborting over carrying children to term. And that sentence is one more sentence than I feel they are entitled to as publicity.
As lissener notes, the use of “Pro-Abortion” is a bit of right-wing spin by the self-styled “Pro Life” movement, implying that those who believe that abortion should not be criminalized but remain the choice of the pregnant woman are in favor of abortions.
The poster is probably a bit of guilt by association. It would probably not be too difficult to identify two people charged with the fondling of a child or with possession of child pornography who in fact gave a charitable contribution to Planned Parenthood, perhaps through United Way campaigns. Therefore it’s an accurate but highly slanted statement.
And “anti-choice” is a propaganda term used by the pro-abort propagandists
Actually, it’s an attempt to be as accurate as possible. Abortions will always happen; the only debate is whether safe abortions should be available, and who should have the right to choose. The debate is about choice, so the positions are more accurately pro- and anti-choice than pro- or anti-abortion.
“Anti-choice” is at least accurate. It describes those who want to remove abortion as a legal choice. By contrast, the imprecation “pro-abortion” is a deliberate and propagandistic distortion of both the issue involved and the position of those it describes. The desire for abortion to remain legal is not equivalent to a position that abortion is desirable or good.
If I believe I have the right to choose to beat my wife, and you disagree, are you anti-choice or anti domestic violence? 
You’re both. Just like anti-abortion activists are both anti-choice and anti-abortion.
Actually, to follow the grammar of your question, I should have said that “I am both.”