The team of lawyers appear to be partisan activists, so I’m probably taking a more skeptical view of what they’re claiming than I would if they didn’t have a history of activism, but that’s what my experiences with the words of partisan activists has led me to.
And you already know what they say about the plural of anecdote.
Look, I’m sure there have been some people, minors and adults, detained in less than ideal circumstances. That’s what happens when their requested funding increase becomes the source of partisan bickering and illegal border crossings surge 619% in one year, as they have in the El Paso Sector. CBP has probably made mistakes (they’re part of the government and the government is rife with mistakes, after all).
I’m curious what you’d prefer they do. Do you wish that progressive Dems had not fought so hard against the funding increase? Do you want them to stop apprehending people crossing the border illegally altogether? Something else?
Could you perhaps think “Hmmm…people work there. Maybe they could try to make sure that children get cleaned, have toothpaste, have an actual bed or something to sleep on.”
I just don’t understand how if there is any question, you’d be more focused on what politicians in Washington DC are doing.
I don’t know if you’ve been reading this thread, but I’m more concerned about conditions in those facilities than what people call them.
And I’m asking you if you care about how the American government is treating children, whether they are seeking asylum, or brought by their parents, or somehow crossed the border on their own, do you care that the Administration says that toothpaste, or soap, or beds don’t matter?
Just because you support concentration camps for children out of partisanship doesn’t mean others oppose them out of partisanship; that’s just projection on your part.
You keep declaring (not arguing, just stating that it’s so) that anyone who doesn’t support your kind’s industrial child abuse is merely being partisan. You have no argument. It’s also becoming clear that, despite your claiming otherwise elsewhere, you do not have the best interests of children in mind. Not in the least.
Look, it’s really, really HARD to keep these kids in decent conditions, when the private for-profit company is only getting $750/day PER CHILDto house and feed them. I mean, who can afford soap or toothpaste on that little?
I mean, if I had to look after, say 4 children who had been ripped away from their parents, I"m sure I’d have a tough time managing on only a budget of $90,000/month. On that little money, it’s easy to see how the contractor would skimp on luxuries like toothpaste, soap, diapers and adult supervision. You’ve gotta have a little profit in there, AmIright?
Great! Then let’s drop the “concentration camp” inflammatory rhetoric.
I would prefer that the detainees of our government were generally treated humanely. That is not always the case, sometimes due to incompetence and sometimes due to malfeasance. That’s something that has been going on since way before the administration of President Trump.
Here is a link to the infamous “toothbrush” argument by career DoJ lawyer Sarah Fabian. To spoil a relevant detail, the complaint at issue in that hearing arose in 2016, during the Obama administration (cite). Do you think Obama is evil for not having provided toothbrushes and soap to immigrant children in all circumstances?
Really, it was pretty cruel of that father to demand to get his son back. Won’t someone think of that poor contractor? The contractor only received $112,500 for keeping the child locked up for 5 months. And now the father just ups and takes him away, depriving the contractor of making an honest living. These Guatemalans are MONSTERS!
ETA: That horrible father probably used inflammatory rhetoric as well.
I have no answer and I never said that I did. However it happened, it’s a mess down there and needs to be fixed. Do you have a solution?
Since it’s apparent that the AP story about the El Paso facility isn’t going to be refuted, we should probably accept it as factual. One would think if it wasn’t true, the Border Patrol would be all over it. Hell, they knew they were coming 3 weeks in advance. Given the conditions described in the article, it’s pretty obvious that the conditions are quite a bit worse than ‘some people, minors and adults, detained in less than ideal circumstances.’ Would you agree?
You know, if instead of demanding billions for a wall, Trump should have demanded the same billions to increase CBP staff and build new and upgrade existing facilities so as to improve the process of handling ever-increasing numbers of people. I think the Democrats would have voted for that funding.
I am curious to see how this information will be hand waved away by those in this thread who favor holding children in such horrific conditions. My guess is the information will simply be ignored,especially considering how they likely consider Reuters to be little more than a liberal mouthpiece for the likes of AOC.
But hey, I could be wrong.
As I’ve already said, my main issue with the stories, including the AP’s, is that “they’ll pick a couple of anecdotes and try to pretend / imply that those exceptions represent conditions generally.”
President Trump DID ask for “billions to increase CBP staff and build new and upgrade existing facilities so as to improve the process of handling ever-increasing numbers of people”. Here is the summary of their FY2019 request:
And how did the Democrats respond (hint: we’ve been over this one already)?
Since the rhetoric appears to be accurate perhaps let’s not drop it?
And, perhaps you can focus your energy less on the language used to describe the horrendous abuse of innocent children and infants, and more on stopping the horrendous abuse of innocent children and infants?
I don’t find it to be more “horrendous” than the “abuse” that happened under the Obama administration, and I find the left’s outrage both selective and politically convenient. It rings hollow to me, particularly because of the inflammatory language being used. Those kids are being used by the Left to score political points.
I hadn’t realized that being outraged at the abuse of children was solely the province of the left, but now that you’ve said it I think I have to agree.
So all the “Right” has to do to take the wind out of the “Left’s” sails is to stop abusing children and infants? Boy, they should do that. It would be what we call a win/win. The infants who are being horrendously abused, and who are still alive, would probably particularly appreciate it.
I hadn’t realized our jails were full of infants who had been seized from their parents and horrendously abused. But if so, then I agree; we should empty our jails of them.