The Trump Outrages Come Thick and Fast

[RTFirefly]

Just in the past few days:

1. We’ve gotten detailed reports about the horrors of the Trump Adminstration’s kiddie concentration camps.

2. The decision about whether or not to commit an act of war against Iran apparently came down to random thoughts in Trump’s head. (Before that, whether or not to militarily intervene in Venezuela’s internal affairs apparently was decided by Trump’s getting bored with it.)

3. The Oregon GOP cheered on an armed militia’s intimidation of Democratic state legislators, and got no pushback from the national GOP.

4. And a respected columnist described how Trump raped her in a department store dressing room back in the 1990s, adding one more name to the long list of women who’ve gone on record to accuse Trump of sexually assaulting them.

This is not normal, needless to say. But when so many Trump/GOP outrages pile on top of one another, there’s hardly any way to mobilize about any single one, and the succession of outrages in effect defines the new normal.

How the fuck do we deal with this shit, given how fast it comes at us?

[CalMeacham]

How the fuck do we deal with this shit, given how fast it comes at us? 1

I think we have to record it all, possibly by knitting it into an inconspicuous scarf or something, for later reference and tumbrel-filling.

[iiandyiiii]

That the rape allegation isn’t front page news is just another demonstration that we, as a country, don’t really care that much about sexual assault and rape. Maybe a bit more than we did 5 years ago, but still very far from where we should be.

[MrDibble]

@CalMeacham

I think we have to record it all, possibly by knitting it into an inconspicuous scarf or something, for later reference and tumbrel-filling.

…then put the pattern up on Ravelry? I hear they’re cool with that.

[Sitnam]

@CalMeacham

I think we have to record it all,

This.

And particularly who else is involved. At book signings, at restaurants, in the old folks home. This is their legacy.

[ElvisL1ves]

@CalMeacham

I think we have to record it all

Yes, to help future historians studying the Time of Madness. And to help answer descendant generations who wonder what the hell was wrong with their ancestors.

[Inigo_Montoya]

@RTFirefly

4. And a respected columnist described how Trump raped her in a department store dressing room back in the 1990s, adding one more name to the long list of women who’ve gone on record to accuse Trump of sexually assaulting them.

Fake news, she wasn’t even his type.

I…I got nothing to add after that.

[Hampshire]

Any decent president, or person for that matter, in a professional position I’d expect when faced with a rape allegation to respond with something like “I don’t know anything about this. I would like to get to the bottom of it as quickly as possible to resolve the situation and clear my name.”
Instead he responds with “I don’t even know who that is! She isn’t even my type!”
What kind of sleazy immature response is that?
His knee jerk response is an immediate denial by feigned ignorance followed up by an insult of the accuser.
But apparently his admirers love it. “Hurrah! How refreshing! He talks just like me! An imbecile!”

[Dung_Beetle]

@iiandyiiii

That the rape allegation isn’t front page news is just another demonstration that we, as a country, don’t really care that much about sexual assault and rape. Maybe a bit more than we did 5 years ago, but still very far from where we should be.

I’ve been surprised that the concentration camps aren’t the top story.

[jasg]

@Inigo_Montoya

Fake news, she wasn’t even his type.

I…I got nothing to add after that.

And as some asked - does that mean he would rape those who are his type?

[ElvisL1ves]

“His type” seems to be the ones who don’t resist.

[Frazzled]

If you look at E Jean Carroll’s Wikipedia page there’s a picture of her from 2006, so approximately 10 years older than when she claims the assault happened

E. Jean Carroll

Frankly, she’s very attractive and has that “New York” look that Trump seems to like. I hate to accuse Trump of lying*, but I think she’s definitely his type and I believe every word she says about the encounter

• I love to accuse Trump of lying

[QuickSilver]

That orange swine lies every time he takes a breath.

[dasmoocher]

@iiandyiiii

That the rape allegation isn’t front page news is just another demonstration that we, as a country, don’t really care that much about sexual assault and rape. Maybe a bit more than we did 5 years ago, but still very far from where we should be.

Well, years ago the Republicans impeached Bill Clinton for lying about a consensual affair and obstruction of justice. How long did that dominate the news? Now, we have Trump almost certainly lying about this (and many more, and also bragging about assaulting women) and we get crickets. Plus, all the actual obstruction of justice by Trump and his cronies makes Clinton’s seem like Little League.

Makes you wonder, that if Mueller had had Starr’s scope of authority to go after anything he wanted to, what he would have found. The Mueller Report probably would have filled a large bookcase.

[DesertDog]

@QuickSilver

That orange swine lies every time he takes a breath.

Aw, c’mon! Not every time; he’s got to snarf down those quarter-pounders once in a while, ya know.

Or does, “Nom,” count as a lie?

[ElvisL1ves]

“Nom” means “This is good!”, so, yes.

[Johnny_L.A]

@dasmoocher

Well, years ago the Republicans impeached Bill Clinton for lying about a consensual affair and obstruction of justice. How long did that dominate the news? Now, we have Trump almost certainly lying about this (and many more, and also bragging about assaulting women) and we get crickets. Plus, all the actual obstruction of justice by Trump and his cronies makes Clinton’s seem like Little League.

Of course… IOKIARDI.

[Dinsdale]

@Inigo_Montoya

Fake news, she wasn’t even his type.

I…I got nothing to add after that.

Knowing nothing about this other than the linked story: they seem to be - at most - acquaintances; they bump into each other in a store; he was buying lingerie for another woman, and asked her to model it; he attacked her in the changing room.

OK - I am NOT blaming the victim. It is WRONG to physically assault a woman who agrees to model lingerie with you, even if the 2 of you go into the changing rooms together. But where in the world do scenarios like this occur outside of cheesy porn movies? :smack:

[you_with_the_face]

@Dinsdale

Knowing nothing about this other than the linked story: they seem to be - at most - acquaintances; they bump into each other in a store; he was buying lingerie for another woman, and asked her to model it; he attacked her in the changing room.

OK - I am NOT blaming the victim. It is WRONG to physically assault a woman who agrees to model lingerie with you, even if the 2 of you go into the changing rooms together. But where in the world do scenarios like this occur outside of cheesy porn movies? :smack:

The article I read said he “jokingly” asked her to model it. She joked right back at him that* he *should. It’s not a foregone conclusion that she modeled anything for him.

How they both ended up in the dressing room wasn’t spelled out, but it’s possible she found something that she want to try on before purchasing for herself and Trump invited himself into the stall with her.

[QuickSilver]

@you_with_the_face

The article I read said he “jokingly” asked her to model it. She joked right back at him that* he *should. It’s not a foregone conclusion that she modeled anything for him.

How they both ended up in the dressing room wasn’t spelled out, but it’s possible she found something that she want to try on before purchasing for herself and Trump invited himself into the stall with her.

Not quite. She spoke quite frankly about it in two interviews. According to E. Jean, they joked about who should put it on. There was an open dressing room nearby. Trump jestured to it. She walked in. He followed her in. He shut the door behind them and immediately attacked her, slamming her against the wall and sexually assaulting her.