He may die in prison. But presidents have a lot of friends, including doctor friends who will say they are at death’s door to create pressure for early release. Former Taiwan president Chen Shui-bian, sentenced to life, has been on medical release since 2015 despite being now healthy enough to host a radio show.
Yea, I know, different laws. But the pressures on the legal system may not be so different.
Trump will go from “Healthiest Person I Have Ever Seen” to “At Deaths Door” with the stroke of a highly paid doctors pen.
Fani Willis sent out a letter to her staff, instructing them not to respond to trump attacks against her.
Looks like Fani Willis will be presenting her case to the Grand Jury early this coming week:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/12/politics/geoff-duncan-georgia-election-probe/index.html
Cool.
From what I am hearing, 2 days of presentation to the jury with indictments to follow.
I am preparing the celebrational treats and beverages.
Fulton county allows cameras in the courtroom, start stocking snacks now.
As my mom said when I told her the news: “Goody goody gumdrops!” I think we can all agree on that.
I’m on board. Do we have no Trumpers left on the SDMB?
If we do they don’t visit this forum much. Too hard to defend the indefensible? Or just that the average SDMB member is a bit smarter than the average bear and has seen the truth about the man behind the curtain. Maybe not enough to be against him, but enough not to be for him. That’s my theory, anyway.
We definitely do, yes.
Not naming them right now but we do and they’re active.
The timeline came into sharper focus on Saturday, when former Georgia Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan and independent journalist George Chidi separately confirmed that they received notifications they will testify on Tuesday.The developments raise the likelihood that the public should know whether jurors hand up indictments against the former president and others by Tuesday evening. Willis is expected to begin her presentation to grand jurors on Monday.
I think it’s been pretty widely assumed that Willis was going to present next week and this is just confirmation from some of the officials who’ve been subpoenaed to testify. I think expecting to hear a “verdict” by Tuesday evening is a little ambitious…
I don’t think we have any open Trump supporters any more, but we do have a few who say “I’m not a Trump supporter, but…” and who then proceed to support everything Trump says and does.
Well, not everything.
The distinction between a “trump supporter” and “a person who gets their facts from Faux et al” is pretty darn small. We have many of the latter.
But enough of “we” in the US voted for Trump, his inner circle, and much of the rest of the RWT to hand the reins to them and, more dismaying, even after the four-year nightmare instead of being, “What was I thinking?” enough of them are planning to do it again that we can’t say for certain it won’t happen.
Granted completely. Our national nightmare with this won’t be over until he and the next two tyrant wannabes have died. I’ll make no comment here about in which way I’d prefer that occur.
My comment was in response to
The we in this case is the US government. Which is not. Yet. As bad as the Soviet Union. Could our government be suborned into a oligarchic kleptocracy or a hereditary dictatorship? You bet. Has it been? No. Yet.
I would add an additional subclause of “Not entirely.” before “No. Yet.”
Yeah, it hasn’t been all that long since someone got elected whose primary qualification was being the son of a previous President.
I’d go along with at least some of that.
Although the government-sanctioned depradations of e.g. Goldman Sachs in its heyday is nothing compared to e.g. Gazprom’s in its heyday.
We are far less than squeaky clean. But there’s a huge gap between the USA at its worst and the Soviets at their best. Or the oligarchy in early Putinist Russia or Xi’s current China.
Agreed, but while your earlier statement was far from doom-saying, it verged on being too optimistic as well. And it’s not limited to the Presidency, as our ongoing thread on Mr. “So many close friends” Thomas, black money funded PACS and the like show. I’m 100% sure you know all of that, but wanted to point out that we’re far closer than we want to admit to falling into such patterns, even though we certainly hope for better.
Yes.
We totally can lose control of this country and convert it into a giant Mexico or Philippines. I hope we don’t, but it sure could happen.
It is quite late in the day and far too many ordinary people are pulling for us to go over the edge cheering in delight rather than screaming in agony.