This discusses the details of moving to a federal court.
Thank you, I just scanned the fed indictment. I remember it was recently reported that smith had subpoenaed Twitter and that I was a bit of a grind. The tea leaf readers thought it might be so they could tell more precisely where the message originated.
One place it states (22) “issued a tweet”, and other place it states (87) “tweeting”.
All the ones in ga say “caused”.
Well, some people view the law Kemp signed in May to be a potential method for the GOP to remove Willis, though I agree no overt steps have yet to be taken in that regard as the law does not go into effect until October, IIRC.
That said, I think it is safe to say that the vast majority of GOP politicians who have gone on record about all the Trump indictments are against them, and I think it is safe to say that’s likely true for GA state pols. Will they do anything about it? Are they already behind the scenes? Too soon to say.
See, these folks get it!
Doing so would intrude on Georgia’s right and obligation to defend its own laws and choose its own presidential electors.
I said the same thing.
I think this is why this isn’t going to go anywhere.
So I don’t think it should be definitively stated that they will absolutely act to obstruct these proceedings.
It might happen, but I think I gave a good reason why it might not, and we shouldn’t just take it as a given that it will.
I agree. In general, state politicians and officials have acquitted themselves better than their federal counterparts when it comes to Trump’s election crimes, but that’s a low fucking bar.
“Look, we’re evil, but we’re not that evil for crying out loud.”
Individual 3, i believe is digenova.
Page 20 and what should be act 3, digenova was with the other three at that press conference. That was the melting Rudy press conference.
Kemp says the election was not stolen and that there has been no evidence of fraud.
Christie of course backed him. Would Kemp be much better than the current group of candidates?
Kemp’s a Republican, so of course I disagree with most of his policies, but he hasn’t been the worst governor. Not a rabid wolverine or a total whack job. He is pro forced birth and thinks way too much about what bathrooms people use, did away with gun permits and just let’s everyone open carry. But he’s no DeSantis.
Uhhhh.
Do some investigating into how he wormed his way into his governorship before reaching a conclusion.
He certainly created a lot of doubt around the legitimacy of his election in 2018 by refusing to step down as Secretary of State as he ran for the governorship. Using that position enabled him to disenfranchise a bunch of voters – virtually guaranteeing his own win.
I mean, I agree with @MulderMuffin, he’s maybe better than Trump or DeSantis. But that’s a really low bar.
And given how much trouble DeSantis has brought on himself, following his lead would seem to be a bad idea for any intelligent politician even if you agreed with him.
Maggie Haberman, in a CNN interview, said that the “report” Trump will be pooping out on Monday is just a rehash of all the conspiracy theories that have already been debunked about “massive fraud” in Georgia. Not sure how Trump thinks this is going to help. 9/11 Truthers have been doing this for 22 years now and all they have managed to do is prove “repeat something until it becomes true” has a point of diminishing returns.
Giuliani dismissed the case as an “election dispute” and nothing to apply RICO laws to.
Well, he knows all about RICO, so that’s that, then. Glad he was able to clear it up in short order.
Ironic since Giuliani applied these laws extremely broadly.
A Canadian perspective on American political culture.
Paywalled. Just the headline.
(Excerpt: Toronto Globe, see post 576)
…But beneath the eyes-glazed-over reaction to yet another indictment – this one with 41 felony charges targeted at 18 figures beyond Mr. Trump and set out in 98 vivid pages describing a “criminal enterprise” – the ground has shifted in American political culture.
The governing wisdom in this parlous period of American history – one in which a former president is portrayed as a mob boss and is being prosecuted under a Godfather-era legal approach designed to battle organized crime – may well come from a 20th century English novelist, Graham Greene. “It is a great danger for everyone,” he wrote in Our Man in Havana, published in 1958, “when what is shocking changes.”
Critics in the decades that followed publication of the novel often said that it foreshadowed the Cuban missile crisis that occurred four years later. But the truth of his one-sentence meditation on danger and change is clear today, six decades after Nikita Khrushchev removed the missiles from Cuba, only 145 kilometres from Florida.
In those long-ago days, when Mr. Trump was a student at the New York Military Academy, Americans thought the great threat to their national survival was Mr. Khrushchev. It was inconceivable – literally, beyond the capacity to be believed – that an elected president would pose a threat to the country’s most cherished values and traditions. Mr. Trump and his allies scoff at the notion, presented in his indictment earlier this month in Washington and again in the indictment from the state of Georgia unsealed Monday. But at their core, that is the implication of the charges – and the reaction, from Trump supporters and opponents alike, speaks to the great danger when what is shocking changes.
…Already the shock value of a presidential impeachment had been devalued; no president faced that for the 130 years between Andrew Johnson in 1868 and Bill Clinton in 1998. In the past quarter century, there have been three impeachments – Mr. Clinton’s and the two involving Mr. Trump. Richard Nixon resigned the presidency in 1974 to avoid both certain impeachment in the House of Representatives and conviction and removal from office in Senate votes.
Now the shock value of a past-president’s indictment – even one with strains of Mario Puzo, the Mafia crime writer – has been shorn of its shock value. That has been normalized much the way Mr. Trump’s comportment – his defiance of presidential customs, his employment of disparaging comments – have been normalized.
Didn’t the Arizona State Legislature hire the cyber monkeys to investigate election fraud? And then didn’t the cyber monkeys themselves tamper with voting machines in the course of their State-sanctioned “investigation”?
He gets to have a press conference! With cameras! And microphones! And maybe some reporters from CNN will show up and he’ll get to insult them to their faces and they’ll just have to stand there and take it and he’ll feel like big man.