Just quickly searching on the net, it does appear that some people do pronounce the two words the same, or at least very similarly. Or see this link. Or looksie here. The “gulf-golf” merger does appear to be a thing.
I know people who call those big-ass see creatures that eat krill a “Well”.
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Can’t stand it.
Is there any reason why we need to keep doing this about everything?
Don’t people realize there are things called accents?
Are you that daft?
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I’m aware of accents, but I was unaware of this particular merger. And I do know that shows like Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy are very anal about pronunciation. Especially in a case where it could sound like a different word.
While I’m sure I’ve said the two words identically, it would only be because I was speaking quickly. I had not realized there was a hull/hall merger. Even Wikipedia only lists it as a merger that requires more study.
I get there are accents, but I find it odd that WoF would split hairs over this particular pronunciation. I’m not sure what the OP is describing.
ɑ is definitely the vowel in golf in most accents I’m familiar with, most of the others using ʌ, which is also the vowel most common in gulf, IME…though I have heard ɑ, to make things more confusing!
Those two words definitely aren’t homophones to me - Golf is pronounced something like “Gohl-ph” while Gulf is “Gull-ph”.
My impression is that they don’t, but the OP wants them to do so.
I hear the same. The two vowels are actually pretty close, especially in some dialects, and adding the /l/ makes it harder to distinguish.
So does anyone actually have a clip of this? Maybe the OP just misheard it.
Here is the famous “buttinsky” episode.
They went through the panel twice and each contestant said “buttinsky” the same way. Finally when they got back to the first contestant, he said it the same way yet again, and they gave it to him. When Pat approached him, he told Pat that he said the same thing, and Pat softly told him to be quiet.
It is unknown what exactly the producers were looking for or what kind of weird pronunciation they were expecting.
I don’t encounter confusion with my Kiwi accent very often, I’ve been here in Australia so long it’s evolved, but occasionally it rears its head. A couple of months ago I went into a crafts store and asked for pins. They thought I said “pens” until I repeated myself in the accent they were familiar with.
It looked like they were looking for “BUH’din’ski”, but the closest anyone came was “BUTT’in’ski”, over-pronouncing the Ts. Though, that was really weird, and the producers should have let it slide, especially with slang.
I teach a packaged phonics course to my students, and one thread throughout the course is homophones (which they infuriatingly call “sound-alike words.” Fuck you phonics people, they’re HOMOPHONES). I live in the South, and for almost all my students, “pen” and “pin” are pronounced similarly–but that homophone pair doesn’t show up in the lessons.
What does show up is “farther” and “father.” Which makes the room exploded in laughter. Gives me a chance to show them where Boston is on the map, though.
okay that made me laugh. I pronounce all the words mentioned in this thread distinctly different, like how is it even an issue?.. and then I got to farther and father.
Mad Men had a couple lines around the supposed similarities between “Don” and “Dawn”. Which are pronounced completely separately in my neck of the woods and didn’t realize the joke until people here were talking about.
Another one I’ve encountered occasionally is “Duty” and “Doody” apparently sounding alike - not in this part of the world, though.
I often wonder if the contestants omit the s sound in solving puzzles with plural words in them. Half the time I can’t tell if they’re asking for m or n, or for b or t or whatever.
Yeah, in American (and many other varieties of) English, those are both usually pronounced with a “flap.” That specific context and sound is called an intervocalic (alveolar) flap. It is usually heard as a “d” sound, but it’s articulated slightly differently than the standard “d.”
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Check me if I’m wrong Sandy, but if I kill all the golfers, they’re gonna lock me up and throw away the key…
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This is both THREADSHITTING AND INSULTING. Don’t do this in topics. If you don’t care for a topic, you don’t have to post in it. Don’t do this again.