Nuh - uh
No, must disagree with you. Firmly midwest. My ex and all his family lived in Madison Indiana. You could see Kentucky from there. It’s southern Indiana, which is beautiful and nice, but not The South.
The OP doesn’t even know where he is. I disqualify this thread from being a rant since it was based on such an unfounded assumption. South or Southwest or whatever you’d like to call Texas, it’s not the Midwest! Keep it far away from here!
Texas is Texas first. And then parts of it are Southern.
Texas is so varied that it needs to be split up to talk about it. Not just geography, but what the general population is like, too. I split it up pretty much like this:
You got Gulf Coast Texas - Beaumont, Galveston, Houston, Corpus Christie, etc…
Piney Woods or East Texas - Tyler, Kilgore, Henderson …
Hill Country - Austin, Hondo, Georgetown …
Panhandle - Amarillo, Hereford, Levelland …
Rio Grande Valley - McAllen, Brownsville, Edinburg …
West Texas - Midland/Odessa, El Paso, San Angelo …
Damn Yankee Texas - Dallas, Waco …
And the places that don’t fit in where they are - Witchita Falls, Fort Worth, Victoria, San Antonio … (They may be in the Hill Country or DYT, but they don’t feel like the rest of the area)
Houston might need a catagory all its own, now that I think about it. It is a huge mix of people surrounded by swamps, freeways, and the Gulf Coast.
Anyways, lots of variety in Texas. An image search for Texas maps brought up this, among several dozen others. Kind of makes the same distinctions I did. Just in a slightly different way.
I think of the Midwest as Plains states – northern, central, and southern. Texas would be Southern Plains. Does that work?
Midwest has to be north of the Ohio River, and then some parts to the west of that, like Missouri and Kansas. South of that line is … well, “South”, for want of a better word, or “Texas”, for the Texas-exceptionalists.
Oddly enough, I think the two most Southern feeling parts of Texas are the Piney Woods/East Texas and the Hill Country areas. Hill Country is pretty much the center part of the state.
The Gulf Coast and Rio Grande Valley areas, south of the above mentioned areas, never felt completely Southern to me. Yeah, it is Southern, but there’s a major Hispanic element there which flavors a lot of things. And a true swamp baby (my birth right), from any Southern state’s Gulf Coast area, is difficult to catagorize at all, because we’re so mixed up from near a dozen or so influences. I’m not just another pretty foot.
So, from outside the state, you can pretty much label it whatever you want. From inside the state, many Texans have their own labels.
Cite?
We have a Winner!
And oooh, there’s a drive-in!
Pssst, looks like we fooled 'em Qadgop, they’re all talking about Texas now…
But, the OP lives in Texas, not the Midwest, correct?
Thank Og it’s working, Augie!
It isn’t a hijack if the conversation is gently steered to the person’s true source of ire.
I’ve often said Houston is the melding point between cajun, mexican and the southwestern cultures.
Now, as for the OP. How did you end up in the Texas panhandle? I’m sure the issues you have with the area didn’t happen since you’ve been there. No, it was like that when you arrived :dubious: Did someone hold a gun to your head (this is Texas after all) and force you to relocate and are still holding you hostage? Life is too short. Find yourself a highly congested metro area and get the hell out of Dodge, errr Amarillo…
The OP speaks of “the Midwest” as a single entity. Yet “the Midwest” is larger than Europe. Would you speak of Europe as a single culture?
This is clear from all the discussion about if the OP is even in what most people consider the Midwest.
No – but the Midwest is far more homogeneous in culture than many small countries in Europe (e.g., Belgium, Switzerland). It’s not just a matter of area: Australia is larger in area than the Midwest, but it’s more homogeneous culturally than the Midwest.