But your lack of comprehension does not equate my theory being wrong just speaks to your lack of understanding.
Yes its true I only have a grade 4 education. And thats a problem how Muffin? If the below text does not make sense to you watch the movie listed below.
The 1997 drama film Good Will Hunting follows the story of autodidact Will Hunting, played by Matt Damon. Hunting demonstrates his breadth and depth of knowledge throughout the film, but especially to his therapist and in a heated discussion in a Harvard bar.
Notable autodidacts Artists and authors
Wikipedia text removed, see the article on Autodidacticism here.
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Yes. Where did you just borrow text from?
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If they have a problem with it I’m sure they will let me know now why don’t you play copyright police somewhere else.
OK. Reported.
Well, I did ask you not to elaborate, but let’s let it go for the moment.
To your understanding, what causes the buildup of an ice sheet during an ice age? Is it the accumulation over the years of winter snow that was not melted during the subsequent summer, or is it something else (and if it is sometthing else, what to your understanding is it)?
Waitaminute. You really said that? Cool.
If snowfall determines the thickness of an icecap, may we predict anything about the thickness of an icecap in a region that doesn’t get any snowfall?
Yeah, when you mentioned Lovecraft, it reminded me that I forgot to read the lovecraftismissing webcomic today, and I missed the rest of the list. Could you repeat it from there, please?
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So do we frown on junior modding, but still, we do appreciate your reporting this potential issue. No warning issued for junior modding.
As for the possible rule violations concerning copyright, I’ll look into it.
Apparently he or she got it from Wikipedia, lock stock and barrel.
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Don’t do this again.
For the Straight Dope
Spectre of Pithecanthropus
A desert by defintion is an area that recieves less than 10" of snow per year. The Arctic basin is the mose arrid part of the Arctic and recieves 10" of snow per year. If you accumulate that over 30,000 years its 180,000" of snow or 34 miles at a ratio of 10:1 for ice to snow thats a 3.4 mile ice cap. There is no geological record of Ice in Alaska or SIberia and the western Actic was ice free. That told me that it was warmer there than in Europe which was under 3 miles of ice. How is that possible with the earth at its current location? You just cannot logically make that scenario work. But if you place Europe in the north pole it makes perfect sense.
Anybody know what junior modding is?
Dislcaimer: I did n’t write the stuff below its clear concsie no spelling, grammar or puntuation errors
unlike the verbal diarea diaareea diareea…Shit I write. For me to take this or anyother piece of work and rewrite it, that would be a copyright violation. to butcher some elses work like that.
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The summer there only has to be warm enough to melt 10" of snow over there for there to be no accumulation year-to-year. That’s not that hard. Meanwhile, Buffalo gets 92" per year on average. If the summer in Buffalo was only warm enough to melt 82" of snow, you’d end up with 10" of snow accumulation every year. The glaciers occur where snowfall exceeds snow melt for the year.
Snowfall is driven largely by precipitation, snow melt is driven largely by temperature. If you don’t get much snow in the winter, it doesn’t need to warm up much in the summer to melt it all. If you get a whole lot of snow in the winter, you can have a much warmer summer and still accumulate snow year-to-year, and thus get glaciation. This isn’t that difficult. Even in the Arctic, snow melts in the summer. In order to get a glacier, you need enough precipitation to make up for it.
“Junior modding” is someone acting in the capacity of a moderator who is not a moderator. So SeaDragonTattoo was acting like a “junior moderator” by calling you on a perceived rules violation when s/he doesn’t have the authority to do so.
The correct procedure, if you spot something which you think goes against the rules of the board, is to report it by clicking the little triangle warning icon in the relevant post, which will send a note to the (real) moderators who will look into it.
And I assume I’m not junior modding myself by explaining all that.
No, you’re fine.
No, that is not what I am suggesting.
I’m suggesting that one day, at the start of the ice age, there were no ice caps. Then it snowed really hard one winter, and that summer was colder than usual. And during the summer, not all the snow melted. The next winter it snowed again, and the next summer it was cold again, so not only did the snowfall of the previous year not completely melt, the snowfall from this year did not completely melt. And so we have two summers where it was warmer than winter, but not cold enough to completely melt the snow.
See, it wasn’t like it wasn’t warm in the summer, just not warm enough to melt ALL the snow. If even a little bit remains unmelted through the summer, that little bit accumulates and accumulates year by year.
That’s how you get 3 mile thick ice sheets. Not because it snows and snows and never ever melts. Rather because it snows a bit in winter and melts a bit in summer, but it never quite completely melts in summer.
And then you get years that are much warmer, and the mile thick ice sheet is gone. But note that even when the ice sheet is melting, there is still winter, it still snows in winter, and the ice sheet accumulates in winter. But the next summer, the snow that fell that winter melts, plus ice that accumulated possibly thousands of years ago.
This is how, at Barrow Alaska, there is no permanent ice sheet. It’s not permanently summer there–Barrow is frozen solid for 8 months out of the year. It’s just that every summer, the sun manages to melt the accumulated snowpack before the next winter. And meanwhile, over in Greenland at the same temperatures and lattitude, there is a permanent ice cap a mile thick. This isn’t because the top layer of ice never melts. IT DOES. Just not very much.
Of course, the Greenland ice sheet is retreating, so right now every summer the Greenland ice sheet melts a little bit more than it accumulates in winter. But it’s not permanent summer or permanent winter that causes ice sheets to advance or retreat.
What If I am Actually right?
:dubious:
Meanwhile, What If purple striped monkeys are Actually flying out of my ass?
What If I am Actually right?
The point is, you’re not.
Indeed. As was pointed out way back at the top of the thread, if you were right, there would be obvious astronomical changes, like a change in the position of the sun in the sky, that no one would fail to notice. Those changes have not been observed; therefore your theory is wrong.
No amount of arguing about climatology will make the lack of astronomical observations go away; those arguments cannot somehow make you right. They do seem to be making you more and more wrong, though.
If you’re going to claim to be successfully self-educated, you really need to do a better job of understanding basic evidence and logic.