Hey, I extended my fist in total friendship, and what did he do? He rammed it hard with his solar plexus. If that was not enough, then he attacked my knee with his testicles. Ogdamn bully.
Given that Individual-ONE’s approval rating has gone from a low of 43.4% the day after the impeachment vote up to a stratospheric 41.8% of late, clearly the move had net positives.
I don’t believe them, I think it’s all after the fact justification and, yes, I think they are lying their asses off. The stories are inconsistent and change every day.
I also thought they were lying there asses off about WMD in Iraq and I held firm that they were lying then. I thought they were lying when they claimed that Jessica Lynch was being held prisoner in a hospital undergoing torture when they rescued her. I told my friends that, based on inconsistencies I saw in the narrative and videos. I said I believed she was in the hospital being treated as a patient and I took a lot of crap for that belief. And I was right about that.
And I think they are lying now. I think Trump is lying his ass off, like he does about everything. I think Mike Pompeo is lying his ass off. And I think Mike Pence is lying his ass off. (I’m also pretty sure he doesn’t take off his underpants in the shower)
And.i think that anyone that believes them is a tool completely lacking in any sort of intelligence or critical thinking skills.
I believe Soleimani was in Iraq as an invited guest of the Iraqi government and I think killing him was a horrible strategic blunder.
Yes, he has orchestrated horrible acts that took American lives. Like Kim Jong Un has. Like Vladimir Putin has. Like pretty much every non-Islamic dictator in the world that Donald Trump has kowtowed to has. And MBS and Trump’s asshole buddies the Saudis, who provided the funding and personnel behind the 9/11 attacks
Fuck that shit. Yes, I think the exit of Soleimani makes the world a better place. I also think the world would be a a better place if Donald Trump dropped dead right now, but I don’t advocate killing him.
The question I’m very interested in Damuri Ajashi answering is the one about “So when are you going to go line up outside the Army recruitment office in the minimall in your hometown?” Because it seems like it’s always people who think OTHER people’s kids should die for their tough-guy fantasies who push for warlike responses to everything.
Never. The chickenhawk calls the veterans cowards.
You’ve got the cause and effect backwards. We’re assuming this is probably a bad decision because Trump has an established record of making bad decisions.
Look you guys. If I need $200 really badly, and I commit armed robbery on a liquor store to get it, and I don’t get caught, that doesn’t make it a good decision. It doesn’t mean that $200 is really worth $1000. It doesn’t mean I’m really smart, it doesn’t mean I should keep robbing liquor stores.
Even if I think this liquor store is a soft target, even if I get it away with it next week, that doesn’t mean I’ve suddenly discovered a new market-beating way of making money. It only means that regression to the mean hasn’t caught up to me yet.
You know how we have all these boomer memes talking about “I never wore a seatbelt as a child, and I’m alive!” Yeah, why aren’t we hearing from all the kids who popped their grape sitting on the front seat in a 30mph collision with a Mini-Cooper… because they died and they can’t talk to anyone anymore. It’s called survivor bias.
We’re in an extraordinarily dangerous place now with an executive branch rolling the dice, and people getting killed, and the survivors saying “hey this worked out grand for me”. If you want to play this game, you need to think how much money and how many children you can afford to lose, and compare this against how much the Koch Brothers can possibly expend. Whose children and whose 409k is going to survive this game of liar’s poker?
The problem with your analogy is that you paint things in black and white, but this situation with the US killing Soleimani was definitely all sorts of shades of gray. Robbing a liquor store is ALWAYS bad, but whacking Soleimani was something any US president could have done…and I’m sure the previous 2 probably had briefings on doing just that. Trump didn’t pick this guy randomly and just say he had to die because, he was given a briefing on the stuff this guy had done in the past, and probably even some speculation on stuff he might do in the future and chose the strike option.
Sure, it was a bad decision (most likely) because Trump doesn’t seem to make good ones, and he thinks with his cock and his temper, but it’s nothing like your analogy. I think to make your analogy work, say you needed the money and decided to hit the piece of shit crack dealer on the corner. The guy is a piece of shit, a murderer, so you decide to whack him. Trouble is, this guys boss likes the fact that this dude makes him money, so there will be serious repercussions for doing it that you SHOULD have thought through, but you didn’t because you decided, on a whim, to do what you wanted to do regardless.
I think the fact that other US presidents refrained from this goes a long way to showing this was NOT ‘the right move’, but we need to keep some sanity here…this guy certainly was a threat, he was responsible for a lot of disruption in the region, and there were certainly valid reasons for killing him. One could say the same thing about, oh, say little Kimmy version 3 in fact, or Putin or countless others. Just because there are valid reasons doesn’t make it a good decision to kill them, especially if you consider the ramifications. Hitting a liquor store, however, is always the wrong thing, and there are no justifications for doing that at all…ever.
Just sayin’…
Funny that the insane and deranged TDS sufferers haven’t blamed Trump, yet, over this situation that the much beloved Iranian regime is responsible for.
Oh. My. God. Will you please fuck the fuck off?
Yes. The question ‘are they lying?’ is answered by the fact that their rationales for hitting Soleimani keep changing.
The only alternative to the “lying” charge is that they had no idea why they hit Soleimani, and are just finding out, days later—and is that an actual possibility? If so, how is that better than the lying?
On today’s Face the Nation, Secretary of Defense Mark Esper admitted that he had not seen any evidence for Trump’s most recent claim (about the Iranian general needing to be killed because he was, supposedly, about to attack four US embassies) :
Esper’s verbiage in that interview amounts to ‘we had no reason to think an attack was imminent but this nation, Iran, that wants us out of the region, was going to go on doing things to encourage us to get out of the region, so that’s sufficient rationale for killing their general.’ Don’t think that one will fly in the International Criminal Court.
Yeah, the ‘haters aren’t showing any hate, and that’s terrible!1!!!!’ message in that post seems to reek of a certain amount of desperation.
What is the point that video supposed to be?
g-translation:
*One of the most terrifying things I’ve ever seen.
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[indent]The sound of paintball arrows
It may not seem like much, but the intensity of the bullet is so intense that it can deter the eye (it is also forbidden to play the hat).
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It was a shot
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*[/INDENT]
and?
(bolding mine)
Even with the qualifiers after the bolded part: cite?
I’m pleased to note that you are okay with murdering people. Is it okay to murder people for both political reasons AND out of fear of vague possible future threats, or it it ok for just one of those reasons?. I ask because in a short while, it’s going to be clear that the Iranian government isn’t the only one that lied about things in this sequence of events.
Got it: according to XT: murder is mostly okay and robbery is always bad.
My thoughts, exactly.
An interesting Twitter thread from the CEO of Maple Leaf Foods decrying how the irresponsible escalation in Iran hostilities (for transitory political gamesmanship) cost a colleague his entire family in the Ukrainian plane crash. Again I must say, such a pointless loss.
You talk big and deadly for a man with absolutely no skin in “the game.”
I try.
Oh, Heavens! What has been implied here???
One of the older punchlines, First century, C.E.
Perhaps, but your punchline treads dangerous waters.
The thing is, it’s not all that gray. At least, not without extenuating circumstances which don’t seem to exist. You don’t just go and kill people, even your enemies. Killing them has to actually accomplish something of value that offsets the wrong of killing. For a nation, it has to offset the use of the agreement that you don’t kill people doing diplomacy. You have to be able to make a case that you did not just commit a war crime.
And they very clearly can’t do this. Their arguments are all over the place. The guy was not an eminent threat at the point he was killed. In no way will killing him stop Iran’s aggression towards the US, but only make it worse.
This whole thing just looks like the US military flexing its might–which is entirely pointless because everyone already knows what we can do.
Oh, and “just sayin’” is a rather odd way to end that post. It’s the sort of thing people say after snarky, passive aggressive posts.