What is Gaybashing Like?

Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
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This thread is highly depressing and disturbing, yet oddly touching. People are so cruel to each other, and I admire you posters who’ve shared your stories for surviving and thriving. I know it takes courage to relieve these traumatic events, and I appreciate your sharing them for our edification. I, for one, consider myself educated by this thread.

Two slight hijacks.

First, Lib, my estimation of you has been raised exponentially by your responses in this thread.

Second, regarding Eve. I’ve been around the SDMB for a while now, lurking and only occassionally posting (as my registered date and relatively low post count will demonstrate.) Eve has always been one of my most favorite posters – an opinion which I believe to be widely held hereabouts.

Eve, do I understand correctly from your first post in this thread that you are a transsexual? I never realized this. How could I have missed this? I must confess that I was initially a little shocked.

This is another source of great enlightenment for me. I’ve never thought of Eve as anything other than a woman. Her personality, as presented here on the boards, has always struck me as entirely female, and in a genuine rather than an affected or campy way.

Thus my epiphany about transsexuality. In every sense except physically, transsexuals really ARE the other sex. It isn’t an affectation or psychologically malady. Not that I beleived this before. I just have never known (as far as I know) a transsexual before, so my contact with Eve here on the SDMB demonstrates this fact for me in a visceral, undeniable way.

Thank you all for educating me.

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I wondered that about Eve too. Perhaps Eve can start an “Ask the Transexual” thread to alleviate our ignorance?

Eve? Are you still checking in this thread?

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(I don’t always agree with Anti-Flag, but sometimes even they can get it right.)

To everyone who posted their stories, thank you. I remember being in history class in junior high and learning about the state-sponsored racism of the 50’s and earlier times. And at some point I realized, for the first time in my life, that hatred is still as accepted in this world as it ever was. It’s just found a different target: homosexuality. I was so incredibly angry. Angry with myself, angry with the world, angry with every single person ever born who just sat there and went on with their life while this evil went on in our worlds, while we sat here in history class, learning about past injustices and thinking that we were safe now, that we were better and wiser and different than those ignorant people from the old days.

But we’re not, and it still makes me so very angry, years and years later.

[on preview: I’m pretty sure there was already an “Ask the Transexual” thread. It wasn’t started by Eve though, maybe KellyM?]

Tanaqui

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Tanaqui, that’s why we’re here: to fight ignorance. This thread has already opened a lot of people’s eyes, and I have no doubt it will continue to do so.

Thank you, all of you, for telling your stories so that we can change things.

CJ

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I’m certain most dopers will overlook the 2 month passage of time until the bumpage, as this thread is a Marvelous thread and deserving of bumpage.

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I used to have to put up with this kind of nonsense every damn weekend. I was the unofficial cast bouncer at the Rocky Horror Picture show in Arlington Texas. I dont know what it is like elsewhere, but rocky around here back then was an od mixture of punks, bikers, homosexuals, a people who just looked homosexual. Every weekend at the theater, another drunk redneck would start making coments about the “Faggots” and I would have threaten him with severe injury(I am 6’6" 385 pounds so I am a bit intimidateing). Often they would go running to the cop just outside the door. The cop would tell them that if they had a problem with me, they had a problem with him too.

I only remember one time they actually got to their intended target when I was there. It was after the show, and everybody was going out to the parking lot. A guy I had shut down inside was waiting outside and ran up and hit this kid in the face. We saw it, and charged him. Unfortuneatly, this guy must have been in track because none of us could catch him. I think he wet himself though. The kid he hit was ok, just pissed off.

After the movie, we would all go to a watburger in Grand Prarie and hang out. That was the real circus. There was some sort of problem every weekend. The cops were worse than worthless. They would show up and tell us the manager didnt want any of the us there ever again. The manager was a friend, and said no such thing. Again, usually I was able to prevent anything really bad from happening, but I couldnt be everywhere at once. I was watching one of my friends walk out to his car, and all of a sudden this redneck come running up and punches him the face. I run out there and the inbreeder runs off and jumps in his buddys truck. The cops show up and dont even take down the license number. He said, oh, that kind of thing has been going on here since I was in high school. Worthless.

One night, just before my best friends funeral, I was in a particularly foul mood, and these 4 jocks come in and start talking about the fags and how they better not see guys kissing each other or nothing. I grabbed my friend (both of us are straight), and kissed him square on the lips, then said ok, lets go. I took off after them. They ran (thank god, they probably would have kicked my ass).

My favorite story, It was a really busy show, and I was standing near the screen, when I saw one of my friends having a conversation with this huge redneck football player type. Now, this guys a little off, and hes a pretty big guy, and generally wears facepaint, has saftypins stuck through his cheeks and neck, and is really into pain. He grew up working in a family tombstone buisness(I kid you not), moveing heavy rocks around. I walk up and see that this jock really looks freaked out. Seems like my friend overheard him saying making the usual faggot remarks, and he starting trying to flirt with the jock(he also was straight, but the jock didnt know that). I walk up, with a 6 cell mag light hidden behind my back, expecting hte worst. Their both out in the middle of the Aisle at this point. My friend turns to me:
“Badger, this beatiful man is going to leave his women and be with me, its true love”
“I’m Happy for you both, whats your wife going think?”
"To hell with that bitch"He turns the redneck"Be my vasaline Queen"He drops down on one knee and sings “Sweet mystery of life, at last I’ve found you”
The redneck sits down and shuts up for the rest of the movie.

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There’s already an “Ask the Transgendered Person” thread floating around out there. Eve’s not the only transsexual on the boards.

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::: catches Kelly’s attention, points her to last sentence of Tanaqui’s post above :::

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I have to disagree with libertarian. I’d pray for the day when it dies thouroughly and irrevercably, after a slew of posts saying:

WTF?? It is possible to be stupid and evil enough to try and kill someone because they’re gay??

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No, I didn’t start the “Ask the Transgendered Person” thread. That was started by Sterra. I am, to be honest, not interested in starting an “Ask the Transsexual” thread of my own, because I do not wish to be obligated to answer whatever random questions people might ask. I get enough of that from my psychologist.

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Maybe in part because she is one:)

My first dream of any physically intense nature about a doper focused on Eve, FWTW.

Shade said:

I have to disagree with libertarian. I’d pray for the day when it dies thouroughly and irrevercably, after a slew of posts saying:

WTF?? It is possible to be stupid and evil enough to try and kill someone because they’re gay?? (original, rather than imported, emphasis)

Those who forget history … :slight_smile: Beside which (and on a much more cynical and bitter note), it’s much easier to just beat someone bloody or call them names or get a bunch of your friends together and jump someone. Actually killing usually requires much more in the way of planning or guts or things that require more than three brain cells.

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Aaah what the hell, my 100th post may as well be on the topic that is on my mind right now.

I was violently raped over a 14 hour period by 3 men who were so offended at my cross dressing dykeness they followed me home to show me and tell me repeatedly just how offensive this was.

My cross dressing consisted of the santa suit I had worn to spread cheer throughout my office. Yes it was christmas eve, it was christmas day before they left.

That was my last christmas, once you have focused on tinsel to get through such an event it kind of makes you vomit from then on whenever it starts to appear in the shops.

'tis the season to feel nauseous and very scared indeed.

Now is there an award for the most depressing post of the day? Do I win?

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Seeing Eve’s photo at a Doper tea party, I can only hope to look as lovely and refined as she does, someday.

I found this thread, posted by her after an absence from the SDMB and her return, to be both touching and informative: All About Eve.

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My girlfriend is a m2f transsexual. One time we were shopping and a sales lady came over to us and asked “Do you ladies need anything?” My girlfriend responded (she hasn’t learned yet how to talk in a female voice) where are the sweaters. The sales lady, who had previously been smiling at us suddenly got The Look on her face. Those who have experienced The Look know what I am talking about. The sales lady then said, “I don’t know.” And turned and walked curtly away. Needless to say, we immediately left the store.
My most recent ex used to insult Shiki (my present girlfriend) all the time. Calling her “it” and a “thing”. Needless to say, I broke up with him soon after that.

My friend Moses while in high school has been spat upon, had his car vandalized, had eggs thrown at his apartment and has had plenty of vocalized taunts. Now that he is in college, he is afraid to come out to his roommates, as other gay students in the school have been targeted by roommates before.

Also, I can think of at least 3 gay men who were beaten up by the police and called “faggot” and other such names. It is especially sad when those who are supposed to protect you cause you harm.

My friend Ariana has received death threats on her cell phone by the leader of the school’s Young Republican club. She is a sophomore in high school.

What is most scary to me is the amount of gaybashing that is done by teenagers. Like the m2f transsexual who was recently killed here in california. She was only 17. :- /

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{{{{{Thylacine}}}}}
I thought my story about getting stabbed (though never posted) was rough.

You get the award for most depressing post ever, I’m afraid. You’re practically a fucking hero for getting through it.

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Sorry, my post was misleading. I was saying I wish people didn’t understand gay bashing, because it didn’t happen. I obviously know it does, together with many, many, other extreme prejudices but I was trying to emphasise how far from human ‘people’ who do that seem. Or did I misread your post, iampunha

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I think I was a bit cynical in reading your post. I’m tempted to say that I hope this society doesn’t forget what evil its members (however much we wish they weren’t such) are capable of if for only two reasons:

  1. So we can be glad the stuff doesn’t happen (for all we don’t have, there are many things we do have).
  2. So we can guard against it.

And I think Thylacine takes the “victory” in this thread, although it seems to be the very definition of a Pyrric one. My reasons for not being so fond of Christmas seem rather selfish now.

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True. I posted in a rage…

Agreed.

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“I’ve never thought of Eve as anything other than a woman . . . Thus my epiphany about transsexuality.”

“I found this thread, posted by her after an absence from the SDMB and her return, to be both touching and informative: All About Eve.”

—Well, I guess I am glad to have been outed by several gossipy Dopers, then. Not that I ever lied about it; just never brought the subject up. . . Still, I knew I could rely on KellyM to intelligently answer any questions that needed answering (assuming she was in any mood to do so!).

“My first dream of any physically intense nature about a doper focused on Eve, FWTW.”

—!!! Most action I’ve had in some time . . .

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Not to hijack my own thread or anything, but this has been a most depressing thread up until now. Have any of the non-het members of the board ever had any positive experience as far as intervention by the cops or bystanders goes? Is it getting ANY better out there? Please tell me that SOMEONE gets it!