You gave an example of a sale that has happened more than once with large properties, and are only calling it odd because the seller made a large profit. It happens and that does not mean it is money laundering. There are other questions to aszk before asking if it is a case of money laundering.
I’m fairly confident with the idea that US and it’s subdivisions lawmaking is not analogous to russia or other authoritarian dictatorships. That’s just my taste.
I’m also pretty sure that, by US standards, most of the gains of russian oligarchs are ill-gotten. So if donny has chasing them we have a civic problem.
The thread should probably have been based around this as it’s topic:
What are you trying to say?
I’m trying to say that money laundering is one of a number of corrupt practices which are adjacent to each other. The more money involved, the stranger any transaction, and the more lies around it, the more we need answers.
I agree with this statement. The money laundering comment shows an ax to grind no matter what the facts are. If he sold the property at market value does not hold up. Money can be made by flipping property large money.
Explain how flipping a property and selling it at market price can be money laundering?
Can I ask where you are from?
I’m trying to say that money laundering is one of a number of corrupt practices which are adjacent to each other. The more money involved, the stranger any transaction, and the more lies around it, the more we need answers.
Explain how donald knows Dmitry Rybolovlev.
Thus, Trumpo buys a building; Trumpo sells that building; [ At this point a miracle occurs ]; Trumpo has so committed money laundering; this means Trumpo has committed a number of allied corrupt practices; we demand answers; Trumpo is impeached for his property selling to a RUSSIAN; Trumpo is sent to jail for the rest of his natural.
Hillary is acclaimed Winner and is president for life !
And no-one knows who Dmitry Rybolovlev is.
You are trying to make up an accusation of crime or corruption out of thin air. What exactly happened that was illegal or unethical? Nothing, that you know of. You just don’t like Trump and so you are going to pick on everything he does. There was nothing strange about the transaction except two very wealthy men making a record-setting transaction. Why are you not accepting this at face value?
I don’t like him either, but I’m rational.
California where people who make money in real estate are considered evil.
Where are you from?
You have not explained how there is any appearance of money laundering. Other than Trump flipped a property at a profit and he knows Dmitry Rybolovlev. My guess Trump had a property to sell Dmitry Rybolovlev wanted to buy the property. And you are turning these facts into a crime?
2 years ago I sold a property in Las Vegas to someone I never met by your standard that makes me a criminal and a dictator.
All we can do is speculate. What would the oligarch get out of it? I don’t think much, however Putin has the oligarchs on a leash and he has supposedly worked with Trump for years according to Christopher Steele (Steele claims that Trump has spied on powerful Russians in the US and given that info to Putin).
Steele said that Trump didn’t take up sweetheart deals that the Russians offered him FWIW.
But I really don’t know what an oligarch gets out of paying 2x more for a home. Generally the person laundering the money is the one that buys something cheap and sells it more expensively. Not the person who buys it expensively.
Just for interest, Kentucky governor Matt Bevin is currently involved in a similar situation:
Long story short: Bevin just bought a house in a swank neighborhood of Louisville from a political supporter of his for $1.6 million, even though the PVA valued it at $2.57 million. Said supporter was also recently appointed to the board of the KY retirement system, a position of some influence since it controls a very large fund.
Now there are plenty of reasons why a house might sell for that much less than its assessed value. But that’s also why this would be a pretty effective way to bribe someone who didn’t care about the appearance of impropriety, since actually proving that as the motive would be nearly impossible.
I think we’re in a new normal that consists of the super rich and connected greasing the skids for each other in many ways.
We’re at a crossroads. We can either use common sense and “follow the money” or else lie down and play dead by saying “but there is no law against that thing you just cited, on the books right now”
I don’t think we have time to do that.
Also Wesley: The oligarch, in the most simple scenario, may be an emissary of putin and doing his bidding in the relationship between one leader and another, when they both are acting in the interests of themselves and not the nations they are leading. It doesn’t take a very vivid imagination to see that these things have motives to them.
Are you also extremely wealthy? Because if not, I’m curious how, as a person of ordinary means, you think your interests align with Donald Trumps.
This is not necessarily “money laundering” just because he sold an expensive house to a Russian billionaire for a large profit. However, it could be if the intent was to use the sale to hide the true source of the money.
I think there is also a bit of confusion here between “money laundering” which is the concealing of the source of money and “racketeering” which is the conducting of a fraudulent or illegal business itself.
I am surprised it took that long to get there. https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder844/71612844.jpg
I like the word ‘emissary’.
‘Emissary of [del]Satan[/del] Putin’.
The Mephistopheles to the Donaldian Faust… Tragic, eh ?