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No, sexism means sexism. I’ve already explained in multiple posts what I believe sexism to be. If you want to talk about gender discrimination or gendered insults, that exists for both genders. I think both should be moderated, for the record.
Well, the only working definition of “sexism” posted so far is the one from XT in post #15, and I’ve got no disagreement with it as written. Any others?
I provided definitions here.
Is it possible for women to feel superior to men, and do you think it happens?
What does that have to do with sexism, which requires a power disparity in which one group is mistreated and denied access at the hands of the group in power.
And we are talking about a cultural designation of one gender as “superior” or “inferior” to another, so what I assume you are doing is trying to imply that if one woman feels superior to a man, then sexism exists against men.
I was referring to your second quote in the above post.
Then you’ll be able to answer my question. What does that have to do with sexism? Were you under the impression that when I said “The harmful part is the designation of one as superior or inferior to the other” that I was referring to one individual person and another individual person, or perhaps I was referring to the two genders, given that my previous statement was “No, sexism presumes that one gender is inherently better or worse than the other. Of course the sexes are different.”
Say I did play along with your definition, where sexism requires both power and prejudice in order to be “sexism” instead of just “gender discrimination”.
What are the boundaries for this system in order to define who has the power, and therefore the ability to be sexist on this board? Is it based on who makes up the majority of posters on this board? Who is a moderator, an admin, or owns this website? Or do you default to a much wider view, based on who is in power in the government?
I really don’t know. I couldn’t tell you what the tipping point would be, if there even is such a thing.
Going beyond just this board for just a minute, is it possible for there to be sexism against men on another message board run mostly by women that catered to one or more women’s issues? I’m asking if “sexism” only pertains to entire cultures, or can it be more localized?
I’d like for you to answer my question above, before we continue playing your one-sided Socratic game.
My question was along the lines of whether it is possible for there to be sexism against men in certain circumstances, which is why I asked the followup question about a woman-run message board. Both questions together deal with both parts of the definition you provided.
So, no, you aren’t going to answer?
But what does “women feeling superior” have to do with the broader implications of a sexist culture or system? Are men on a message board being harmed by a message board that caters to women’s issues? Are they being abused on this hypothetical board, mocked, objectified? That is certainly bad and should not occur, because it is gender discrimination. Or is it like this situation with this board, where the sexism that exists in culture and society at large is being mirrored in the interactions between members on this board. Because those two situations are different, and I would still argue that no, they aren’t the victims of sexism because message board participation does not constitute broad, institutional and social harms.
If participation in a female dominated message board in which men are being bullied occurs, that is still not sexism because it is not a truly harmful power dynamic which they can’t escape. In the situation with this board which we have had many discussions about, the women who brought up the sexism issue here are experiencing that power dynamic disparity both in the real world and the effects of it on this board.
Is sexism against men a big concern of yours? Because if not, these types of questions read like you’re focusing on winning some unstated debate question by nitpicking definitions and identifying asymmetry more than actually trying to engage in an honest dialogue about a problem raised by a group of posters.
If men can’t understand a women’s perspective, should a male moderator be involved in determining whether a reported post does, or does not, rise to a note/warning level?
So effectively, sexism against men is not possible on any scale you can conceive of at this time?
Well, I stand corrected.