What is the English word for a human with a naturally occurring vagina?

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It is definitely transphobic to deliberately misgender a transgender person: e.g., to refer to a transgender woman as a “man” or “male” (except in a technical discussion where for some reason it’s relevant to mention the fact that she has biologically male genes or birth anatomy).

I don’t think I’ve been accused of that, but I do try not to misgender people.

As discussed in the other thread you referenced in your OP, there are some verbal ambiguities where, for example, we all recognize that a term like “pregnant women” is a reasonable approximation to the more accurate expression “pregnant people, including for example pregnant cisgender women, who make up the vast majority of pregnant people, and pregnant transgender men”.

I don’t think people generally get called transphobic for using those reasonable approximations. If somebody does get all accusatory about such an approximate term being used in good faith and with no intention of offense, I think the accuser needs to dial it back and give the accused a break.

Now, what does tend to get people called transphobic, and not without reason IMHO, is when they make a big fuss about supposedly not being “allowed” to use those reasonable-approximation terms anymore.

Or when they whine about other people choosing to use more general and inclusive terms, such as “pregnant people” rather than “pregnant women”.

Or when they make a big fuss about the semantic decoupling between terms denoting gender (such as “woman”) and terms denoting biological sex (such as “anatomically female” or “having a naturally occurring vagina”).

If you’re willing to take all those emergent linguistic phenomena in your stride and accept that they’re just part of the way that language is changing as we develop more insight into the complexities of sex and gender, then I don’t think you’re doing anything that could reasonably be called “transphobic”.

But to be fair, it is not always easy for me to figure out exactly what you are saying in your posts. Case in point:

Sorry, but could you please explain in more detail what you mean by these two sentences? Both of them were apparently posted in reply to me, but I really am not following your train of thought in either of them.

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Do you think I am Trans phobic?

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Only in certain contexts. If you are talking about a transwoman, and call her a man, you will likely be accused of transphobia.

If you are talking about breastfeeding, and say, “it takes a couple of days after giving birth for a woman’s milk to come in” no one will accuse you of transphobia, even though a transmen might also have to wait a couple of days for his milk to come in after giving birth.

Unless you happen to be talking to a pregnant transman, or his partner, when you say that. Then you will likely be accused of insensitivity, not transphobia. But either way, if the exemplar of “person about to give birth” in the room happens to be male, it’s rude not to acknowledge it.

Just as, if you are talking to a woman who has just adopted a child, it would be rude to make a comment assuming that all new moms just gave birth. Not because that would always be rude. In fact, in the abstract, that would be fine, because most new moms DID just give birth. But if you happen to be talking to an adoptive mom or her partner, it’s rude, in that conversation, to exclude her from the set of “new moms”.

So it’s not being inconsistent, it’s being sensitive to context, and to your audience.

Does that help?

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AFAICT, the OP’s questions about gender and gender identity have been answered. What’s left to discuss?

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I don’t think you have shown any clear evidence in this thread of a personally transphobic attitude or transphobic beliefs.

I do think that some of the things you’ve said in this thread could be interpreted as showing the influence of general systemic transphobia in our society and language.

For instance, when you seem to think that we need a special word for referring to women in casual conversation (as in “Hey guys, I met a really nice woman today, we are going out tomorrow”) that will unambiguously indicate whether or not she was born with a vagina.

We generally don’t talk in casual conversation about the genital status of people we’ve just met. And to suggest that we need a special word for that purpose, specifically in order to indicate whether the person in question is cisgender or transgender, could be interpreted as reflecting transphobic thinking.

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Have I done any of those things?

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Is this whole thread then really about you and how people react to you?

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It is really more about how people react in other threads. Women/Men would not get a thought. Unless it is trans specific.

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Do you get all worked up about other threads where they use gendered pronouns?

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No. I may engage a conversation about under what circumstances it is more appropriate to use gendered/nongendered/generic pronouns or not use them at all, if I find that conversation interesting, but I will not be all anxious about being accused of transphobia because of it.

(BTW, save yourself the bother of asking me to further explain myself. I will not. As someone else mentioned earlier, it’s getting hard to understand what is your point.)

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Fair enough.

I just wish I could get the same respect.

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It sounds like this thread is about a specific and personal grievance you have. I don’t think there’s any chance of productive discussion unless you share the details of this specific grievance.

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No not at all. I have no grievance other than the use of a made up compound word that means “woman”.

What is the word?

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I don’t understand what you’re trying to say. Your questions about gender and gender identity have been answered.

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I will donate 100 dollars to the charity of your choice if you pop into:

Do women wear pads and tampons all the time, or only during menstruation, or what?

And accuse everyone being being homophobic for not using the correct terminology.

correct everyone.

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We don’t have single words for every combination under the sun. That is why we have sentences.

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Have you done any of what things? Have you talked about new moms assuming that they’ve just given birth when you were talking to a new adoptive mom? How the hell would i know?

In a thread about trans issues, it’s reasonable to assume that trans people are among the immediate audience. And so it’s inappropriate to use language that excludes them. It’s probably intentional and transphobic.

In a thread about menstruation it is, perhaps, careless or sloppy to refer to “girls” and not to “people who are about to experience female puberty”. But it’s unlikely to be an intentional insult to transmen, nor is it particularly evidence of being transphobic.

Now… If you are a medical provider, you probably need to be more careful in your language. For that matter, if you are talking to the mom of a trans boy approaching female puberty, you sure as hell need to be more precise.

Should I generally be more inclusive in my language? Probably. Am I exhibiting transphobia by participating in that thread using words like “girls”? No. Especially when I refer to my daughter and son, who happen to be cis.

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May i suggest, as a mod, that urging posters to insult each other is a bad idea.

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Just give me that same leeway.

I would ask you, specifically @puzzlegal, am I a trans phobe?

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sorry