I’d call it a thoughtless act, if they don’t make other arrangements for girls to have access to sanitary products.
Well thank you - I am all blushing now.
What amazed me was when I gently (after all, this was the South) complained about it, the woman looked at me as if I was making some kind of radical political stance. I didn’t feel like informing her that if my son was to eat before 7 at night, I was the one who had to cook, and moreover, that I cooked dinner for my wife as well, because I had more time, I enjoyed it, and, perhaps what would have shocked her most, I am a much better cook.
It was very scary though, when I thought about it later. It wasn’t just that they expected his mother to be the one cooking, it is that they told him he was wrong to draw it any other way, even when he told them that his Dad did the cooking at home.
Did you even read the original post? They were saying it was sexist that girls could carry bags when boys couldn’t. How did you jump from that to “not allowing any bags is sexist”?
Hey, I resemble that remark! 
Object away! Fight the status quo. Stop the random, institutionalized, customary, and expected sexism. I’M ALL FOR THAT.
I think cat-calling (which I always assumed to be a paradoxically complimentary and threatening unsolicited comment on a person’s physical attractiveness) is despicable. Even worse when it’s taking advantage of someone who’s obviously at a “low” point.
What’s silly is thinking that you’ll have a pleasant “walk of shame.”
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No blushing, sir, I implore you. Comport yourself with the dignity that befits your station. Do you wish us to think you are some sort of filthy Hungarian?
Which is why I say this was an attempt to enforce social norms. The woman did not wish your son to think cooking was appropriate for a man, even if she did not articulate that thought.
There’s a difference between “thinking you will” and “thinking you should.” How is anything ever going to change if people don’t call the bullshit out when they see it? To use a hyperbolic analogy, that’s like saying that Rosa Parks shouldn’t have expected to get a seat on the bus and instead shut her mouth and stood up, because that’s just how things are.
Really? I graduated in 1985 and the guidance counselors basically told my parents not to worry, my grades were good enough to get lots of academic scholarships (she was right, no loans, and all I had to pay for were my books.)
Maybe it would have been different if I’d had a male counselor, but if you were in an AP course, it was assumed you were headed to college.
Of course I read it. But I was responding to your post here…
There’s no “need” in this scenario. A “no bags” rule should mean no bags, period. The fact that there was a purse exception to start with was a mistake.
I think we’re talking at cross purposes, I just don’t see how the principal can be faulted for trying to enforce the rule as written.
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Where in this thread did anyone say they expected otherwise? This thread is about sexist acts, whether or not they are usual.
I don’t get it.
Rhymers make random silly statements. It’s one of the 17 major ways we are annoying. Check the RhymerFaq if you want more information.
The first argument is whether the “walk of shame” is sexist. I do not think it is by itself. Men do the same walk.
What happens on the walk may or may not be sexist. Cat-calling - sexist. Non-gender-specific harassment - just plain old harassment.
At some point I answered why a woman doing the walk of shame should be “shamed” while a man would be congratulated. My answer was a little tongue-in-cheek, but it provoked responses that seemed to suggest that a person has no responsibility in avoiding that foreseeable harassment. And that it was a Rosa Parks-like duty to stand up for your rights during your hungover walk home.
I said, and still feel that you should avoid those confrontations regardless of your rights. It’s one thing if you had the National Association of Hungover-And-Regretting-It People in the wings supporting your March of Shame, but you don’t. You have to worry about your own safety.
Honestly, I don’t think I’m at odds with the folks who were replying to my comments. I will now cease beating the deceased equine. 
I never said it was sexist, just stupid. Seriously, scroll back up and try to find anywhere that I said it was sexist to ban any students from carrying bags. You won’t find it, because I neither stated nor implied it. In fact, if you go back and look, what I actually said was,
Bolding added, since apparently you missed it the first time.
Apparently you missed the point where I labeled my own analogy as hyperbolic. But you must have missed the basic thrust of the argument, too, which was, “Just because you can predict that something shitty and bigoted is going to happen to you doesn’t mean that you should be required to do something to avoid it.”
Toilet paper works in a pinch.
And what I asked is why is it stupid to include purses in an “all bags” ban? Purses are bags aren’t they? If the school has an all bags ban, saying “What about the menstruating women” is the stupid response IMO.
I didn’t miss the hyperbole. I got the thrust of the argument too. I just didn’t agree with it.
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Allowing girls, but not boys, to carry bags is sexist.
Not allowing anyone to carry bags is stupid.
Including purses in a ban of bags makes sense, but the bag-ban itself is stupid.
Even airlines don’t count purses as “luggage”. Not even really big purses. Airlines aren’t stupid enough to exclude boys, though. They’ll allow men to carry purses, too. Or a briefcase/tote bag/whatever, if you’re afraid to admit that you’re carrying a purse.
My stepdaughter, who graduated from high school fairly recently, almost never had time to go to her locker between classes. She usually stopped by three times a day - before school, during lunch, after school. There was at least one year when I think she opened her locker maybe a half-dozen times the entire year. She didn’t bother to keep anything in it because she never had time to go there.
So she’s already carrying at least a half-day’s worth of books, notebooks, etc. Then there’s keys, billfold, all that sort of day-to-day baggage. Not even counting the girly-stuff (like hairbrush and lipstick/gloss, at an extreme minimum) required by societal expectations (and don’t pretend that teenage girls can just ignore societal expectations, that’s not realistic either).
Just where, precisely, is she supposed to carry embarrassing items like pads or tampons? Walk around with them in her hand all day? Remember, you’re not talking about just carrying one - she’s gonna need at least a half-day supply, if not a full day’s worth. As already mentioned, most women’s clothing does not have adequate (if any) pockets. Even if you’ve got pockets, there’s a limit to how much they’ll hold.
(For some reason I can’t get quote to work with your post. It’s not showing up on the post reply screen either. Weird.)
For about 3 minutes on heavy days. Then it falls out of your pants leg when you get up out of your desk.
I have never argued otherwise in this thread.
Whether teenage girls “need” their makeup and crap throughout the day or not, that shouldn’t be a concern of the administration when administering a bag ban.
Again, this is not the administration’s concern. If she doesn’t have clothes with pockets for those days, then she needs to get some clothes with pockets. Hell, I’ve seen bras with pockets sewn into them to hold money or a tampon discreetly. Or what about a binder? I used binders all through high school (I did carry my bookbag all day though), they all had extra pockets or slots to store stuff.
Also, women only became opposed to the bag ban after the option of carrying a purse was taken away. It shouldn’t work like that, and all the whining about “Where will I store my makeup and other sundry items” seems rather lame.
On that trip most of the guys simply took the mattresses off the bedframes and split the bedding up. The housekeeping staff must’ve loved our group :rolleyes:.
Girls did seem to get more privacy than we did. For example if the female PE teacher needed something from the boys lockerroom (the balls were kept there) or talk to one of the male teachers she’d just yell a warning and come in while we were changing. No man would’ve dared do that with the girls lockerroom. She once caught 3 football players (who took a rare shower after gym) buck naked :o. The girls also got more privacy for their physicals.