What is the opposite of NIMBY

[TriPolar]

@doreen

I’m not sure what you mean by “purely about location, not personal impact”. In my experience when it comes to NIMBY , the location and personal impact are the same thing. Don’t put the drug program,shelter,sewage treatment plant ,etc in my neighborhood because it will increase traffic ,cause property values to drop,overcrowd the schools. Let those things happen to some other neighborhood where I don’t live. And the same goes for the opposite of NIMBY, whatever that ends up being called. My state is planning to close a few prisons, and the subject came up during legislative budget hearings. It seemed like all the legislators from those areas could talk about were the jobs that were going to be lost in their communities , that their towns would have to raise taxes to make up for the lost inmate work crews, etc. No one was arguing to keep all the prisons open ( I guess because they knew that couldn’t be justified.) They were only arguing that the one in their district shouldn’t be closed.

It is sometimes only about location. And often in those cases some individual stands to profit from putting a facility in a less than ideal location.

[doreen]

@TriPolar

It is sometimes only about location. And often in those cases some individual stands to profit from putting a facility in a less than ideal location.

I still don’t understand. Can you give an example? What I see referred to as NIMBY is things like neighborhood residents objecting to a homeless shelter because of the the impact on the neighborhood. When a wider group of people ( not only nearby residents) objects to the location because of reasons having to do with the purpose of the shelter (for example, it’s difficult to look for permanent housing or get to work if there is no public transit) it’s generally not called NIMBY.

[Hypno-Toad]

Per the OP:

@Wesley_Clark

I’m looking for a situation where someone is opposed to a concept or principle, until it affects them personally and then they want it. The opposite of being in favor of a concept or principle until it affects them personally and then they don’t want it.

To me, welfare is exactly this. I’ve seen and heard lots of people deride the lazy poor who just want to live off the gubmint. But when the economy tanked (hard) down here some of them, including my own roomie, ended up on unemployment and grateful for it while they looked earnestly for jobs. And yes, I call it hypocrisy. And an epiphany in one case.

[Knowed_Out]

In warfare, attrition occurs when one’s main goal is to cause gradual loss to the opponent, eventually amounting to unacceptable or unsustainable levels, while limiting one’s own gradual losses to acceptable and sustainable levels.

So say if somebody refuses to sell their land to a developer who wants to build a shopping center, they’re using the NIMBY stance to deter the intentions of the developer. However, depending on city regulations, the developer might be able to clear all the land outside the resident’s property lines and start building the MegaMall. This can be considered a War of Attrition, because the developer is hoping the resident will finally give in and move. Or, the resident stubbornly refuses to leave, forcing the developer to redesign his plans at a loss, making the entire venture not worth it.

So maybe the opposite of NIMBY could be Attritionist. ie, “I fought City Hall and they won,” so I have to live with the consequences.

[msmith537]

Yes Outside Your Front Yard?

[Loach]

@kanicbird

What is the opposite of NIMBY?

Nimby is in it’s basic form you (some other people) must suffer for the good of society while that does not apply to ‘me’, because I am above you in this society.

The opposite would be one who is willing to suffer by accepting unpleasantness for the betterment of society because he/she thinks they are of a lower status in society.

Not really. It doesn’t have to be “fuck those guys.” You know its necessary but you don’t want it close to you. Maybe they can find a vacant field somewhere. Its not really my job to plan things out. Can’t those politicians find another place? etc etc. It doesn’t have to an us against them situation. Most people don’t think it through that far.

@Urbanredneck

I think the opposite of NIMBY would be a community that WANTS some nasty or unpleasant facility built in their area because it often means jobs and/or tax money. Take for example a oil refinery. Nasty, smelly, but thousands of good paying jobs.

Local Hero. I love that movie.

[Superhal]

I don’t think hypocrisy fits in the right way. NIMBY is a cliche that expresses the OP’s idea in a neat way. More examples I can think of: Politicians who voted for the Iraq War but didn’t want their kids drafted, WASPs/Catholics who picketed against Roe v. Wade yet were first in line when their teenage daughters needed an abortion, etc.

I know there’s a sociological term for it: Inside/Outside thinking. Anything on the Inside is good, pure, logical, etc. Anything on the Outside is bad, evil, illogical, etc., even if it’s the same action. For example, Americans might loudly and raucously criticize any culture that eats dog, but what Americans put into hot dogs would make many people puke.

[Wesley_Clark]

@msmith537

Yes Outside Your Front Yard?

Close, I was thinking ‘yes outside your front driveway’. Very close though.

[chrisk]

“That rule/law doesn’t apply to me.”

[WhyNot]

I think hypocrisy is as close as we have to a single word for it, particularly if one’s objections to the thing/practice are based in morality. Excellent examples already given.

hy·poc·ri·sy
hiˈpäkrisē/Submit
noun
noun: hypocrisy; plural noun: hypocrisies
the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one’s own behavior does not conform; pretense.

(From whatever dictionary Google is using these days.)