What is the result of the french referendum on the EU "constitution"?

The question is the title.

I’m asking because exit polls can’t be announced here before the end of the vote in Paris and Lyons, at 10 pm. And I’m going to bed early, tonight. And I would like to know.

I suspect that the estimated results could have aready been mentionned in neighboring countries, UK or Germany, for instance. So, if any poster know the result, please share the info… :slight_smile:

FT has this Obit, but I’m not seeing any actual results yet.

Voting hasn’t finished yet. I haven’t found any exit polls either.

The BBC exit poll summary indicates a firm rejection.

Personally, I would have voted no on principle to any constitution which IIRC runs well over 200 pages.

France has said no.

Even if it’s a cutdown from 2800 to 450?

It’s quite strange to watch as, for once, a country other than the UK throws a spanner in the works of the big european project.
Strange and highly amusing at the same time.

Or as John Lennon once said “A Spaniard in the Works”

I have some problems with this, more from a democracy ppoint of view.

There is no direct mechanism for the elcetorate to remove EU representatives, yes we have Euro MPs but these are pretty much shoe-ins who get to pick their constituencies as elder, but rejected former National representatives.

The EU commissioners themselves are appointees of various agencies and governments.

If the EU judiciary were powerful such that complaints could be heard quickly and effectively, or there was some sort of constitutional board, again independant and seen to be so then this would be some reassurance.

In other nations, when such major changes are proposed, which amount to changing the constituion in a very significant way, the majorities required are usualy no less than 66% and go up as high as 80% to unanimous.

Here we have such major changes being voted on a simple majority.

The EU document is too much change in one go, the effects are not easy to predict and will have unintended consequencies, which will remain in force until such matters are defined and cleared up by the judiciary, whose independance and power may need to be reviewed, something that the French don’t seem to like when it rules against matters in their interest, the UK gripes and then grins and bears it.

450 pages? :eek:

That’s not a constitution, that’s a manifesto. I’ve heard that a copy of the constitution was mailed to everyone in France, but it was so damn long that most people couldn’t finish reading it.