What is the Straight Dope on Raw Milk

Only if you use the right lube…

That looks like one volume of an extremely comprehensive encyclopedia.

Yet another joke that my kids’ generation wouldn’t get…

While not directly related to rectal exams, i did have another question.

What little I know about the raw milk debate come from occasional news stories about a rash of raw milk illnesses. And often they get into the “illicit trade” in raw milk. i gather from this thread it is perfectly legal to buy it at the farm. But from these news stories i was always under the impression there was sort of an underground trade in the stuff. Like running moonshine or something.

Any truth to that?

The laws vary dramatically from state to state. So maybe it’s just illegal in your state. In mine it is legal to buy it directly from a farm licensed to sell it.

I couldn’t find a decent link to the “illicit trade” “moonshine runner” idea but this one alludes to it. The raw milk seller in the story seems to be obeying the law at the time of the interview, but got “busted” in the past.

I’m not taking a stand on the whether raw milk is more dangerous. Just curious what the pro raw milk people think of the underground market for it, or if they have any experience with it.

My uncle was once involved in an interstate raw-milk smuggling operation.

It was illegal to buy in his state, so he and his girlfriend would regularly drive several hours into the next state and buy some, bring it home, and distribute it among their small network of customers.

That would be an interesting thing to have to explain on the “Group W” bench…

The health qualities of raw milk could evolve interestingly over the course of a several hour drive…

That’s hilarious. Selling raw milk like you would cocaine. Window rolled down just enough. Milk dealer looking around for cops. Sweat pouring off of your forehead when you see a cop on the side of the street. Pulled over–milk sniffing dogs around the car.

Cop: What are you doing in this rural neighborhood?
Driver: I swear, I was just looking to buy marijuana!
Cop: Really, nothing but marijuana, huh? Well, what’s that white stuff on your upper lip?
Driver: It’s cocaine residue, I swear!
Cop: Cocaine, you say. I can smell the dairy from here. Out of the car, maggot!

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Certainly true. I wasn’t close enough to the action to know how good the refrigeration en route was.

Thanks to this thread, I started craving cream (to drink straight) and just had the BEST bowl of cereal.

Pasteurized and such, of course. I don’t live close enough to good dairy farms to get raw milk.

But y’all made me NEEEEEEED some dairy cream. Thanks, Dopers!

In the spirit of SDMB pedancy, if we’re going to go strictly by “nature”, “nature” would seem wants us to suck on milk from our respective mothers, not from some ungulate ruminant, for a few early years and then move on to chewing on nuts, roots, berries and the ocassional animal.

Nature also seems to want us to get infested with parasites a lot, too.

I knew a lady who raised milking goats and fed her kids the raw milk. It reminded me of Heidi in the Alps where I loved the description of her drinking a frothy bowl of goats milk and eating toasted goat cheese and fresh bread, it sounded so tasty and fulfilling.
But I declined her offer of a glass when her kids complained about goat hairs in the milk.

It is an interesting thing and I read an article some time ago that the reason many people are lactose intolerant is that their bodies recognize that “this didn’t come from your mother’s breast! It’s an invader’s substitute. Puke it up!”

I don’t have a cite or any idea if it is reliable, but makes sense on its surface.

Lactose intolerance results from a lack of lactase.

As I said, I wasn’t pushing this, I just read it. Did people who suffer from lactose intolerance also have problems with nursing as babies?

The linked article says that intolerance from birth is rare but possible.

So the absence of lactase could have been an evolutionary trait. Just saying.