Actually, a human rights court in Canada ruled that no, it is not right to have the same policy on private care as North Korea. There is no human rights interest served by such a policy.
Same as North Korea? Good one! Never say what you can insinuate.
North Korea is the only other country that bans private basic care. Well, they’ll be the only country once Canada’s private system gets revved up now that the government can’t shut them down.
Which, no doubt, means something very, very important. Which you make a vague, insinuating gesture towards, but don’t actually say.
Let’s see, Canada maple syrup, NK, no. Canada, largely European descended white folks, NK entirely Asian. NK has no hockey teams, does not border on the US, has total shit for an economy, has a raving loon for a leader. OK, that last one, but it just changed…
Is there a Godwins Law equivalent for North Korea yet?
adaher’s remind me of those people who were screaming about socialised medicine panels around the same time the UK was celebrating the NHS in the Olympic Games Opening Ceremony.
Canada had a democratic choice and it chose it’s own healthcare path, which is an awful lot more than the people of the USA were able to do for decades.
Doesn’t matter how democratic you are, you can’t ban people from buying a legal product with their own money. And a court rightfully ruled so.
But like I said, the motivation for that is to keep people from getting too much as much as to keep people from getting too little. If you just want to do the latter, you don’t need single payer. ACA works fine for that.
But you can regulate to the point of banning someone from selling a product that is publicly harmful. I don’t have case law on that, but remain confident it is so.
Wait, what? Says who? And how much is this “too much”? Do you spend a lot of time fretting about trampling the human rights of rich folks? You needn’t, they have people for that sort of thing. Congress, for example.
Human rights apply to all. If someone is willing to sell you basic health care, from a licensed doctor offering legal products and services, then what’s the government interest in stopping that transaction?
There is none, unless you’re committed to an ideology that places “social justice” over basic human rights.
That’s the thing, the policies they were selling are no longer legal. So it is entirely consistent with your reasoning. It is not a legal product.
And the reason for banning private insurance for basic care?
Oh, Doper, please!
Obamacare does not ban insurance for basic care. It bans insurance that only pays for catastrophic care, and then only after paying an exorbitant deductible.
ACA opponents are appealing the origination clause case to the Supreme Court.
Because of course they are.
That case actually has merit, since no one disputes that the bill originated in the Senate.
It’s just that the rules haven’t been obeyed for 100 years or so. The price of electing lawyers to Congress: rules are something to be gotten around.
You know many of them could have, right? Unfortunately, they just didn’t know that they could. Medicaid enrollment increased in every state since obamacare’s inception, even those states that chose not to expand, because they finally did enough outreach to inform people who qualified but weren’t enrolled that they could.
What’s an “exorbitant deductible”? We know that $6000 is A-Okay given that’s what a lot of bronze plans require, so what’s officially considered beyond the pale?
Does it really ban that? It does, of course, require you to have compliant insurance, but could you not also supplement with additional insurance, even if that insurance by itself would not be compliant?
No one? That article specifically referenced the full 11 judge appeals court, which said that the bill originated in the House, despite the stripped out language.
That basic care is already covered as a basic right in Canada. There is nothing left for private insurance to cover. It isn’t a matter of it being illegal, but of there being no market for it.
You know that, don’t you?
Well then we’d better hurry up and ban solar powered flashlights.
Actually, there is a market because you get it faster at a private clinic or hospital.
That makes no sense whatever.
The actual Canadians here have repeatedly advised you (one could not call it informing, though) that that is not reality.
You’ve picked the wrong horse to bet on, and for all the wrong reasons. Repeatedly. What would it take for you to reconsider?