But what about all of us who’ve been rehabbed and are all clean now? We need to do something to take our minds off it, right?
I guess I’m fairly innocent, but I think that’s because I hung out with people who weren’t. I’ve done:
pot- (and still do occasionally)
LSD- (and still do about once a year)
PCP accidentally- (never scrape the bowl of a friend of a friend for a resin ball)- interesting experience there. my friend Mari (a seventeen y/o white hippy chick) thought she was a large black gangsta-brutha type for a bit. fcking hilarious. and I’ll never do it again.
'shrooms- didn’t do much for me, but I was in an unfamiliar place with largely unfamiliar people. Don’t generally do well being fcked up in strange circumstances.
assorted pain meds- don’t really dig them, I feel too blob-like when I take 'em
alcohol- a social drinker, but rarely get drunk. Stolichnaya Vanil vodka is my achille’s heel. deceptively smooth and sweet.
Tabacco- pack a day addict.
I don’t do any illegal drugs. All I gots is what the doctor gives me and I don’t take all of that all the time. I got xanax, but only take it if I get really anxious. I have drunk occasionally and still do, once in a while. But not enough to do more than get slightly relaxed and happy, never really even buzzed.
'Course, I have to bow out on the sex thing, too…but I’d really enjoy the bantering and ice cream…
I did three Alleve about 30 minutes ago. Will try to keep you updated if I survive the trip. 
Hmmm, well maybe if you see someone here posting about current or past drug use you might think to yourself about your current preconceptions of what drugs really do to someone. Most drugs taken in moderation don’t make people stoopid ot zombie-like at all. In fact Before I ever turned on to LSD I was pretty much average inasmuch as I did not want to be noticed by others so I intentionally dumbed myself down a lot. Afterward I “blossomed” and became more outgoing and interested in learning new things. I maintained Pell status all through college and had offers for free rides to grad school from such schools as Mudd and Reed to name two based on some papers I had written in my senior year. I don’t think dope is completely harmless but in the grand scheme of things you suffer just as much following a semi truck donw the freeway with your windows open as you do from a joint now ant then and it’s a pretty easy guess which one is more fun and relaxing.
The biggest reason dope has such bad PR is that it’s pretty much verboten to promote it, wheras the media is quick to put up every anti-drug message they can come up with.
Hell at the turn of the last century cocaine was a mainstream new treatment that “enlivend the blood and enriched the soul” (quote courtesy of Siggy Freud) and in the middle of the last century such notabled as Aldous Huxley were writing about the mind expanding nature of LSD. Prozac is being heavily prescribed nowadays for virtually everything and does have a lot of positive benefits for many poeople (although it is quickly becoming a panacea of sorts and being mis-indicated for a growing number of users) and the properties of prozac are heavily psychotropic and you have to use it every single day taking moderation completely out of the picture.
Thanks, zen101.
However, I was (basically) commenting that, based on my past experiences, however limited, in knowing people that have consumed drugs and alcohol, they’re not the most coherent bunch. In general, I always wondered WHY; they generally did worse in school than I did and most of their conversations revolved around how they a) got messed up last night/weekend or b) would get messed up tonight/this weekend. Never saw the appeal of that, myself; this doesn’t mean that I didn’t get along with them, but it does mean that I didn’t “hang out” with them. After all, I knew what they’d probably be doing. That a group of people as generally intelligent and rational as this could have, among them, consumed so many illegal substances therefore came as a surprise to me. Apologies if I may have offended those of you that have consumed numerous different drugs.
I do not, however, dispute that many of the world’s greatest intellectuals, including those you mentioned such as Freud, were also some of the world’s most prolific drug users, nor do I regard that as a coincidence. Seems such people are generally more curious about altered mental states, etc.
However, I think I’ll refrain from using drugs myself on the basis that I’ve been known to act a little strange as it is from time to time and I hate to think what I’d act like under the influence…
Interesting. No one has mentioned GHB yet. Am I the only one one the board who has taken and enjoys this? hmmm.
Also I’m suprised at how few others have taken Special K. The only one I noticed was Silo.
:Gives Silo a big K-Hole High Five:
I didn’t mean to come off preachy and you are right a lot of idiots do use drugs, I guess the thing is that a lot of people in general use drugs or have experimented it’s just that since idiots have little else to brag about they tend to think drugs are something to beef up their credentials with so they chat it up quite a bit with people at random. At one time in my life I thought I was an alchoholic. It turned out I was merely a drunk (the difference is that when I quit drinking I didn’t miss it), anyhow, during that time I went to a few AA meetings and met epople with cross addictions. It was weird listening to people brag about how much it took to “get off” or how much shit geting loaded got them in to. They may have been “sharing” but if you listen to a lot of these people it’s bragging loud and clear. My only drug related bragging is about what a lightweight I am and remain to be and about having the coolest visuals and dreams but even that is relegated to such times where the topic is allready on dope experience or with persons with a shared history and view on the subject.
I wish morons would either not do drugs at all or do enough to eliminate themselves. They give the rest of us a bad rap.
On another note: I left off one drug that I had only dones once because i forgot about it.
Ketamine: One time. Very hard for me to get safely and I don’t like snorting and refuse to shoot. But I mixed it with some really good blotter and the whole experience was reminiscent of “altered states” scenes in the isolation tank. I was completely self aware but felt very little input externally. I went through every ranger of emotion and think I am the better for it, but I would NOT suggest this for anyone as it will let you know how close to snapping you really are in a vert dramatic way.