What new car do you think could last you the rest of your life?

As no spring chicken myself, I give these sorts of things occasional thought. And I would add that there’s an additional constraint – not just life expectancy, but how long you (and I) will be able to drive. Here in Ontario, once you hit 80, a general (G-class) driver’s license must be renewed every two years, requires at least a vision test and attendance at a senior driver group education session, and may require a road test and/or additional medical certification.

Anyway, as my current vehicle is getting on in years, I’d probably take the OP up on his kind offer, but I’m not sure if my ideal car exists yet. I’d want something all-electric with decent range for reliability, an SUV form factor for ease of entry/exit and some cargo capacity, and heavily rust-resistant or plastic/fiberglass body panels.

They have a sales office in the U.S. If I were shopping for a new 4x4, this is the best choice:

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You might be painting over some of the line, but I think that’s still inside the lines. :smiley:

Thanks. I hadn’t heard of this group before but they’re an interesting option. I think I’d want to buy a couple of vehicles from them for my end-of-the-world bunker.

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Hey, it’s against the rules to wish death on me! :grin:

Ok, so with these limitations I need to make a list of everything I could conceivably need a vehicle for or need a vehicle to do for me and try to find something that will satisfy as many things on the list as possible.

  • Passenger capacity: room for at least 5 adults, plus a dog.
  • Cargo: room enough for a big Costco shopping trip or a Black Friday gift-buying adventure.
  • Extra cargo capacity if needed: room for a Christmas tree or some 2x4 boards.
  • Something I can drive well into my dotage: so nothing that I have to climb up into or squat down and fold myself into. Something that can carry a wheelchair if needed.
  • Towing capacity: I don’t have a trailer at the moment or really foresee myself getting one but since this will be the only car I’ll ever have I need to take that into consideration. What if I want to get a teardrop travel trailer after I retire?
  • Maintenance and repair costs/feasibility: I live in small city and the only foreign car dealerships we have are Honda and Toyota. So no getting an Aston Martin or Land Rover or similar car that I’d have to take out of town to get repaired. Plus, I don’t want to have to take out a second mortgage just to do routine maintenance.
  • High visibility to other drivers. This is fairly easy to accomplish with bright or light-colored paint.

So lets take all of the above into consideration. A sports car is right out. Plus, I’m a fat balding middle-aged man working in a school. Buying anything sporty just screams “midlife crisis!”

A coupe is out because of the cargo and passenger limitations

A sedan is out for the same reasons.

A dedicated 4x4 like a Wrangler or Defender is out for the same reasons.

A pickup might work. I’ve had the chance to drive and use the new F-150 hybrid and, I have to say, that’s a damn nice pickup. Comfortable, powerful, and a plethora of actually useful features, not just “shiny-for-the-sake-of-being-shiny” type of stuff. However the need for wheelchair inclusion is pretty important to me, moreso than the 4x4 that F-150 provides.

So. That leaves me with… drumroll… a new Honda Odyssey minivan in white pearl paint. The top trim package, please. I want a sunroof, fog lights, and heated seats at a minimum. I also want an integrated old-school CD player and those are only available on the top-level trims [aside: CD’s are old tech by now. Why are they only available as premium features? A decade ago they were standard across pretty much all makes, models, and trim levels. It seems to me CD players should be standard on the low end trims and Bluetooth/Apple Car Play/Android Auto should be top trim level stuff but it’s actually the other way around.) Before delivery please take it to a customization shop and fit it with bespoke heavy-duty brush guard. Since this is the last car I will ever own I want to protect it from deer strike damage as much as possible. Please add a set of auxiliary driving lights – the super bright kind that Jeep enthusiasts like. Please also add extra interior lights in the cargo area, to especially include the far back cargo area. I have yet to see a minivan that has adequate cargo space lighting.

This vehicle satisfies all my needs. It has room for 8 passengers with cargo room left over, has an available roof rack for larger items, has an intelligent traction-control system for the rare times we have snow, and has a 3,500lb towing capacity. When I get old and too creaky to climb in and out of a smaller car, this will still work well. If I even need to modify it so it is wheelchair-accessible, this van will work (a pickup can be fitted with a wheelchair hoist but the chair is still left out in the rain while driving). Being a Honda I’m confident it will stay running for 40 years / a million miles only with routine / scheduled maintenance.

So that’s my pick. If for whatever reason I can’t get the Odyssey the aforementioned F-150 with a paint-matched shell on the bed is my second choice.

I used to have a Saab 95 Wagon with all of the trimmings that would have happily been my forever car. However, being a 90s Saab, poor reliability destined it to a very short lifespan. When it worked though, it was heavenly.

What happens if the car gets totalled? Do I get a replacement or am I just S.O.L. for the rest of my life? (Might make a difference as to which vehicle I choose…)

Carmudgeon.

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This is your one car. You can have an exact replacement, but the cost is on you.

I guess I’ll go with a Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk Elite

As a former insurance agent, and given the OP’s scenario, suggest working with an agent to purchase a Stated Value / Replacement Cost value policy for the vehicle. Sure, it’ll be more expensive, but it’ll help insulate you against the loss of the vehicle that comes with the ‘drive it off the lot’ depreciation.

I think the bigger issue is if it’s totaled 10+ years down the line (or stolen, or other unrecoverable loss) you may not be able to find a replacement for the exact year make and model.

Although, again, from an agent and adjuster POV - it can be a total loss where repairs are greater than value of the vehicle but it’s still technically usable (a large chunk of Total Loss Claims) - at which point, you’d take it back as a salvage title, and use any remaining reimbursement from insurance to repair it to the best of your budget.

There are dozens if not hundreds of new models that would run for the next 40 years assuming some planning and maintenance, and that would cost less than many folks are currently spending on their monthly car payment.

Even if you went with an EV, battery replacement cost is something like 20k for the reasonable ones. Assuming you fit the required usage pattern, planning for a 20k expense every 6- 10 years is reasonable for most middle-class households – a large proportion of them indebt themselves for double that or more as new vehicle prices have gone up.

I’d probably pick something like a Volvo sedan or SUV with a hybrid powertrain. Maybe the RAV4 Hybrid. Or maybe something a little fancier like the Lucid Air. Because I would rarely use its range, the battery pack should last for a long time without degrading much as is wear-levels itself.

Concerns about parts availability are valid…I’d probably be driving it for 40 years or more. In that time, battery chemistry might change or be regulated enough that my car could become illegal. Or Volvo or Toyota could go out of business and parts availability decline such that replacement cost would be exorbitant.

But, since this is a mental exercise, I can ignore all those externalities and be reasonable-ish, which is what I think I have done.

Hey! I resemble that remark.

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Based on experience so far, EV batteries will last a lot longer than 6 to 10 years. Maybe the Nissan Leaf battery wears out that fast, but it has an air cooled battery. Pretty much everyone else has active battery temperature control. If you take care of the battery (keep the charge between 15 and 80% especially when not being driven, avoid fast charging) it’ll probably last twice that long (12 to 20 years). Not saying you should never charge to 100% or use a fast charger, but make those exceptions, rather than the rule.

As far as the OP, I don’t currently own a car, so would like to put the acquisition of my last car ever off for a few years. Like maybe when I’m in my 80s or 90s.

Believe it or not, probably my 2010 Ram 1500 pickup. I plan on it being my last ICE car, and I plan on keeping it. It’s had 195,000 mostly trouble-free miles and is still a very nice vehicle (less the 16 mpg). I’m 55.

Well, since my friends all have Porsches, the OP should buy me a Mercedes-Benz.

My Ford Ranger lasted me for a really long time and I bought it used. At my age, a new one should last me for the rest of my life with regular maintenance. All of the issues when I sold it were were fixable at a cost of what a fair used car would cost me. So that would be my choice with a standard cab and an extended bed and a topper.

A number of my friends all have had Ford Rangers that they drove into hundreds of thousands of miles. Ford Rangers are tough trucks.

The way I drive?! It hasn’t been invented yet. :laughing:

I’m not known to be brand loyal, but I’ve had Mazda 3s since I first test-drove and bought one in 2005. I’ve had the 2004 and 2014 models and come 2025 or so, I’ll probably get a 2024. Those have all been sticks, but I suspect by 2025 I may have to get an auto, assuming an ICE. If there’s some hybrid or electric version, I’d look into that. I’f I’m having a mid-life crisis, maybe an MX-5 RF, but it’s a bit impractical for me as a daily driver.