What size 12 ga shot for a snake?

That would depend upon the distance between the snake and the TV set. :slight_smile:

Hi, my name is gonzomax and I’m going to make a comparison that completely and entirely nullifies my entire argument at the end my post.
Thanks, and have a great day.

Jesus. What’s you people’s deal with snakes? Get a broom and shoo the damn thing off, then continue about your day. Copperheads are gentle and nonaggressive anyway.

What the hell are you smoking? A copperhead is a rattlesnake sans rattles.

Looking at th Wiki article, it appears that the copperhead isn’t as poisonous as rattlesnakes. Still, they are potentially dangerous, and isn’t a threatened species.

I handle copperheads almost every day. They are nothing like rattlesnakes (which are generally non-aggressive either, by the way). Copperheads are pretty sweet-natured snakes. I’m supposed to handle them with a snake stick, by policy, of course, but honestly, sometimes I just grab 'em and stick them in their cage. We have a cage with, oh, 10 or so copperheads that all live together. Nobody has ever been bitten, or even threatened, by any of them.

Our water moccasins are a different story. Hyper-aggressive little bastards.

Just get a damn broom, give the snake a nudge, and it will move on. Don’t go trying to kick it out of the way or anything, and you’ll be fine.

Which doesn’t mean they are aggressive. Some rattlesnakes are, some are positively tame - it seems to vary both by species and geography ( some populations within a given species are just milder than others ), more than individuals. Copperheads are generally regarded as pretty mellow in temperament and prone to defensive “dry strikes” even if trod upon.

Which still doesn’t mean I’d be sanguine about having them in my yard if I had children, pets or other concerns. They are potentially dangerous ( if only very rarely fatal ) and thus a threat to the prudent. Of North America’s poisonous snakes they probably cause the largest number of bites. That is mostly down to them a) being as common as dirt, b) freezing defensively when approached and c) having excellent camouflage, which all = them getting stepped on a lot.

But if you don’t step on one, you’re very unlikely to get bit by one. The seem to prefer a passive defense to an active one.

Copperheads are a big problem where I live, and I’ve hauled an even half-dozen early season hunters to the hospital in the 2 years I’ve been an EMT. The fastest way to be bitten is to step on one, and they’re not easy to spot in the ground litter where the hunters look for game.

I’ll shoot or decapitate one every time. I also won’t bother a non-vemous snake unless it’s a nuisance above and beyond merely living.

They’re not a “big problem”, and you’re suffering from selection bias, being an EMT.

Damn right I’m biased. As far as your pronunciation of copperheads not being a big problem, your career with NC Division of Fish and Wildlife began when?

Let’s see. I have 8 years with the Alabama Department of Environmental Management, and 4 years of heavy field work with the National Park Service (with part of that time being spent going out and capturing and counting snakes), including some time in North Carolina carrying out the above referenced activity.

Copperheads are not a “big problem” anywhere.

They are a big problem if they hang out by Mrs. Plant’s car and she steps on one getting in or out. :slight_smile:

For her, or you?

You’re not married, are you?

Her problems are his problems. :smiley:

Thank you, Sir or Ma’m. :slight_smile:

Sir, thankyouverymuch. That’s why I know this.

Semi-woosh!

Not when Mrs. Plant reads it, it’s not.