what subculture were these girls a part of?

Riding the bus today, I saw a group of four mexican girls - I’d say that their average age was around 14 - all dressed and looking exactly the same. They all wore similar glasses and were all wearing checkered boots that looked like Doc Martens. They all kind of had that betty page hair thing going on, but two of them had pretty garish streaks of dye in their hair.

More than anything, they looked like rudegirls, but are any 14-year-olds into ska and that whole culture, not to mention Mexican chicks in Chicago?

Could just be generic teenage decoration.

Don’t know about Chicago and Mexican chicks, but at least as of 5-10 years ago, there were plenty of young teens into the ska culture. (Not that I was one, but I did go to ska shows).

14 seems a bit young for the example, but the next time you’re by a Borders or Barnes and Noble check out the current crop of tattoo magazines and you’ll see plenty of young women rocking the 1950’s + Punk look. I don’t know what it’s called as a style, but I think it’s pretty cool.

Sounds rude girl/punky to me. I know I would have done the same thing when I was 14. Some things never change. And though I am out of touch, there was a big Mexican-ska tie-in when I as involved. It was almost obligatory for any local ska band to have at least one song in Spanish, and I think it was a place where Mexican punky types could feel a bit accepted (ethnicity gives you bonus points in ska-coolness) than in the bigger punk mileu.

I bought a Mexican ska band’s CD in the Zocalo of Mexico City a couple of years ago.

Those girls are just punk rock chicks I should think; at this point what used to be differentiated as different strains of the punk/hardcore/rockabilly/rude subcultures have pretty well melded, especially for younger people who have no memory of any time when they weren’t.

Any bar I’ve been to the past several years with punish dudes has several women in their 20s into their 30s rockin’ a Page style, hair and clothing.

And I’m OK with that… :smiley:

I meant punkish dudes but maybe that was a pretty funny Freudian slip…

Maybe they were innovators, or early adopters.

Maybe their label hasn’t been determined yet. Is there a pigeonholes.com or something that can help us reduce these girls to a stereotype? There should be! Then we’ll know whether to like them or not. Maybe then I can find out whether to like myself or not.

My pigeonhole.com rating is “fat cracker art-fag.” What’s yours?

Ha! I thought this was a real website, tried to find it.

Yeah, that’s the thing; 10 years ago, third-wave ska was huge to the point of being fashionable among the teeniebopper set. Not so nowadays, when it’s returned to its own teensy niche. If the girls were 10 years older, I’d assume they were rudegirls and not think twice, but at this age, they’re still fully MTV’ed out.

In an age where My Chemical Romance fans think that they’re “goths,” what could these teeniebopper latina rudegirls be getting their style from - John Mayer?

Oh man, that would be a great site. How many times have you seen somebody clearly conforming to some subcultural norm, but you don’t know what? Or you can pinpoint a style in your head, but don’t know the name.

I wish that site existed.

Jombi says you have two wishes remaining…

How anti-climatic. I want a label, godammit!

How about “Jailbait?”

Girls in the early stage of teenage. If that isn’t the most sartorially conformist social group in the nation, I don’t know what is. The military has more variation in dress than young teenage girls.

My oldest daughter felt profoundly alienated from young female society at the age of 14. We were out once and she saw a group of girls her age all dressed abolutely identically. The exact same spaghetti strap tanks. The exact same khaki shorts. It was so blatant. She made a comment why do they feel they can’t be individuals. I love so much how my daughter turned out nonconformist like me. At the time she rebelled by wearing all black, and covering up instead of skimpy. I supported her when all the other girls ostracized her, calling her “Goth.”

She used to protest: “I’m not Goth!” But those words sure looked funny emerging from her black lipstick. :smack:

Rudegirls? Ska? Third-wave? Boy, do I feel out of touch. Thanks, guys. I have never heard any of these terms.

Ska’s only a few decades old; it should hit Texas by about 2009. :stuck_out_tongue:

I saw plenty of girls like this at the Warp Tour. One group of a half dozen with dad were waiting for My Chemical Romance to show up. Well, they weren’t exactly ready when the crowd surged inward when they hit the stage. I thought dad was going to punch someone in my group, not like we had much of a choice on where we went. Learn to mosh or stay out of the pit, girls.