And what sort of issues do you have that compel you to keep poking him with a stick? Leave him be, and get on with your life.
Well, he sounds like an asshole, yes. But that doesn’t mean you have an absolute right to use the lot, nor should you be deliberately provoking him.
Some people just have rage issues:
A few years ago my dad discovered that a tractor he had loaned out TWENTY YEARS AGO was left to rot in a man’s back yard when he didn’t need it anymore. Dad threw a hissy fit and wanted to fight the man, despite the fact that they’re both hitting 60, because the man had dared to disrespect his property. He said, “That tractor was the pride and joy of my Uncle so-and-so, and he made monthly payments on it for 10 fucking years!” Of course, my response was, “Then why did you loan it out? And why didn’t you ask for it back twenty years ago?” It’s your own damn fault.
Uh, is that related? Not sure, but it seemed related in my head…men having weird emotions regarding possession and whatnot.
I’m not really saving dog poop. Well, technically, I guess I am. I have a heavy duty garbage bag in the far corner of the yard that I essentially tie off by weaving into the chain link fence. A couple times a week, I undo and open the bag, and go on a poop hunt. After a while, the bag gets full, and I haul it out to the garbage. All in all, I’m guessing it’s more sanitary then my neighbor who never cleans up after her dog, and just basically has a shit covered yard into which no one can venture.
Am I really that much of a freak? Does no one else do this? I do tie it off when I take it to the garbage, so as not to mess up the garbage man.
I’m going to side with the “you knew he didn’t want you there so stay the fuck off of his property” crowd. You were 100% in the wrong.
Haj
Stay the fuck out of his lot. My guess is that would solve the problem.
Ava
Cover up his “For Sale” sign with a “Free Parking” sign.
That will improve his day. 
Regardless of whether or not I was wrong, I’m seriously concerned for this man. Maybe he needs some anger management counseling or something.
yep, and furathermore, in some areas/cases, if a property owner allows some one to consistently use their property, it can be claimed that prior usage was allowed, making it difficult to assert property rights later on.
Went through the same thing w/ a neighbor who didn’t think it was a big deal to park on my business property (even if I wasn’t using it).
You’re not required to like your neighbor but he has a right to set the price for parking in his lot. You have a choice to pay and use it or not pay and not use it. Either way, your choices determine the type of conversation you’ll have w/him. Park on his property w/o permission, and he’ll rant and rave.
I’d also add, he’s gonna give himself a heart attack someday if these kind of outbursts are the norm for him.
and re “what’s his problem, I’m seriously concerned about him” etc, the first time my neighbors parked on my property I was polite about it.
after that, I wasn’t. He apparently did let y’all know he didn’t want you to park there, how fucking polite do you really expect him to be when you deliberately did it again?
If you were as concerned for his well being as you claim to be, then you would not keep trying to anoy him by infringing on his property rights and then giving him attitude whenhe calls you on it.
And why do you think this is your business? If you’re floundering for a rationalization to do anything but (1) shut the hell up, (2) keep the hell off of his property, and (3) mind your own damn business, you’re not having much success so far.
Cite for the idea that it’s required to post signs or fence in property to prevent other people from entering it?
This is called “adverse possession” and IMHO even if Oregon recognizes it this situation probably wouldn’t qualify for an adverse possession claim as your dad sought permission from the previous owner to use it. Some friends of mine are battling the onset of an adverse possession claim and, if they win, their neighbor is going to have to tear down his garage.
Otto my point regarding that was as an explanation of why some one would care if a neighbor used their empty lot. I care a fuck of a lot that my neighbor not use my parking, even if I’m not currently using it.
Look, I haven’t “kept on” doing this because this is the first time he screamed at me over it.
Seems like Oregon does recognize it.
I’m not sure if permission was ever actually sought. We haven’t gotten any hassles until recently.
Then I take it that you are just talking through your hat in your other thread on the matter in which you ask in GQ for legal advice concerning liability if you were to post a derragoratory sign.
Since you ask :
http://www.local6.com/news/2299533/detail.html
Well, we suceeded in forcing the man to cut his grass. We complained to the city that it exceeded the six inch city ordinance limit. He must have had it cut earlier this morning, but I wasn’t around to see if crazy mustache guy did it.
As far as I have been able to ascertain so far, the owner lives several hours from here. The one who yelled at us was apparently someone he sent over to hassle us.
Curiouser and curiouser.