Do you think Clinton will run for re-election if she loses to Obama? Do you think she will go back to NY not go for re-election and write another book - Annuls of an historic March or something to that effect? I wonder about her wont to be in Washington if she doesn’t get the nomination…The old ties that broke - the failed allegiances. She’s not like a Kerry who can go back to normal…She’s a pillar of an old dynasty - and actually I like the woman. But I wonder where she will go after all of this is over - if she loses…
If a loss occurs - and it’s trending that way now - what kind of a blow to the Clinton’s ego would this be? Am I reading this all wrong and a loss won’t effect them at all? My sense is that a loss would deeply effect her, what I am wondering is how it would effect her, and what would she do?
It’s my belief that the only reason she even ran for the Senate in the first place was to give herself the gravitas to run for President of the United States. Remember, I have ties that make me only “2 degrees” separated from them, and while I won’t pretend to know everything about them or their campaign, I knew for a long time before she announced that she had every intent to run. This campaign has been in the works for years.
Pure speculation, but I think this is it for her. So when it’s is over, I predict, so will be her political career. I think she’s more likely to pull a Gore than a Kerry.
Me too, and I think she’ll do a grea tjob in what ever she chooses to do, as long as it’s not running this country. I don’t mean to be snarky, I like Hillary as a person, but not as a commander in cheif.
I really doubt she’s going to resign early from her Senate seat just because she loses the residential nomination. And I believe her current term in the Senate runs through 2012 so it’s not like she needs to make any quick decisions. So she’ll probably sit back for a couple of years and then decide if she wants to spend the 2012 election cycle running for President, rerunning for Senator, and getting ready for retirement.
If things go the way I expect and hope they will, the party will start leaning on her to drop out of the race before Obama has things strictly wrapped up. They will offer her something in return for not dragging this out. She could become a major power in the senate. I mean, it’s not as if anyone is truly happy with Harry Reid, right?
Yeah, she became a senator to become a president, but I think she’d rather console herself with being a powerful senator than with retirement.
There isn’t more money available to her for lobbying or doing a talk show on Fox, besides those jobs are all taken by other ex-Senators anyway. Might as well stay where she can actually do something, ya know?
Are any of you wondering the same thing about any other candidate also currently holding another office? If not, why not?
Who? McCain’s got the GOP nod all but taken care of. Obama has the best chance in all reality of becoming the next president… So who are you referring to? Huck?
The question is if she’ll try for President again or not. If she gives up on that, then, freed from feeling like she has to question every action from the perspective a future Presidential bid, she could be an awesome force in the Senate … very powerful. Very effective. Bluntly put, freed from those considerations she would more effective there than Obama would, and more effective there than as President.
Are you wondering if McCain will stay in the Senate if/when he loses in the fall? Or what any of the other candidates who have already dropped out will do next?
IOW, why the focus on Clinton? Why the assumptions about *her * motivations in life that you don’t seem to be making about anyone else’s who’s in the same position and done the same things? :dubious:
I can’t see the party leaning on her to drop out unless she falls significantly behind in delegates and I don’t see that happening. If she can’t win the White House, then she’ll go for Senate Majority Leader at some point. And if you can believe the tabloids, she would divorce Bill if she loses.
Oh I see what your saying…why single out Clinton? I think because she is the other historical candidate. McCain isn’t all that historical - great guy, but not historical. Hillary on the other hand is a hardcore female senator who has/had a serious bid for the white house…that’s historic. That’s all.
As a tangent, how often has a Senator dropped out during or after an unsuccesful run for the Presidency? Senators usually don’t win. I vaguely remember people being a little bemused when Leiberman didn’t resign, I can only assume because people figured Bob Dole should be the standard bearer on election ettiquette. How many other times in history has it happened that a candidate has resigned his position?
As an aside, I wonder how many Democrats who got furious at any suggestion Lieberman should resign in 2000 now wish they hadn’t been so vocal…
I find this amusing, as both she and Obama both said they had no intentions of running in 2008.
IIRC Dole did resign during his campaign. Dukakis got a rafter of shit for not resigning as Governor.
Better go deeper. In what way is she historical that matters to your question? Just that she’s female? Color me skeptical, given the continuning widespread odor of personal Clinton-hatred in the air. Unless you had an equal fascination with Elizabeth Dole, though - did you?
I don’t hate the woman, I really don’t, I wouldn’t be attending her birthday party or anything, but I certainly don’t hate her. I don’t like the establishment. I see her as the establishment candidate - to be blunt, she doesn’t inspire me. Do you realize last Tuesday was the first time I went behind the curtain to vote with a smile on my face? I have never, ever done that before. Emotionally that means a lot to me. As you can see when you turn on the TV or surf the web that same emotion means a lot to many people across the country when they vote for Obama. It’s a theme expressed over and over. I don’t see the gitty-inspiring talk coming from anywhere in the Clinton Campaign. I see them deflecting negatives over and over and over…I’ve watched her speak on cspan to groups of people and they look happy, but not beside themselves as they do at Obama’s appearances. I’ve seen him, and people are rallying like I’ve not seen in my short 30-something life on this earth. And for a U.S. President??? Yeah, that’s inspiring.
Ok, here’s what the other candidates would do if they lose:
If Obama loses OH and TX, the party will ask him to step down. I think he would, with promises in pocket to key high-profile committee assignments and the up-front support of the party the next time he runs when there’s not a Democratic incumbent.
Romney will split his time between tending his fortune and shoring up his support with the conservatives, prepping for his next run, which will go nowhere.
Huckabee will do much the same, except he’ll focus on the religious right, and quite possibly do better.
Of course she’ll continue being a senator. Being a senator ain’t bad and it’s always good to have family in congress. Life can be annoying if you don’t.
And yet, somehow, she’s still getting just as much support, and maybe even more so, than Obama. Ever wonder why that is?
You can certainly be for one candidate without being against the other. I agree that this has been a rare and welcome campaign, one in which one can confidently choose one candidate knowing that the other would be a damned good choice too. That’s what democracy *should * be about.
But you do seem to be imputing motives inequitably here. You’re making the mistake of letting your admiration for Obama have a dark side to it. Gotta knock that shit off.
That’s true. Getting caught up in a fun campaign is not something I am used to doing. As for why people are coming out for Hillary - because she is just as historic a candidate as Barack, minus the likability IMHO. And being the establishment candidate carrys a lot of weight with a lot of people still. With the recents flips - people moving from Hillary support to Obama support - I think the tide is changing. We’ll see in the next few weeks.