What would an unloving, unjust, unfair God be like?

Maybe if you understood the difference between ‘chaos’ and ‘probability’, you wouldn’t have posted this. Perhaps, also, if you understood how probabilities can cancel out, this can produce predictability at the macro level. But, as has been long-established, if you understood anything at all about science, your posts in GD would be radically different.

You’re presuming that the better lives lived on earth are long enough to be a blip on his radar - perhaps to him they’re just long enough to tease us.

For the rest of the week, I shall refer to you as ‘Snarky McSnarkerson, lord of the riposte.’ Here is your sword.

In God’s defense, he did have money on that one. I think he can be forgiven for that.

Lately, I really have been making a conscious effort to control my temper on the SDMB. But **lekatt ** brings out the worst in me.

Soph-- I mean, Lord McSnarkerson – I think you mistook my applause for criticism. I was in the midst of composing a reply to lekatt when I read yours and was silenced by its wonderfulitude.

For future reference; when somebody GIVES you a sword, it’s a mark of favor.

I’m sorry, but you cannot invoke science and then post something like this. The body you inhabit is absolutely the “real you.” The chemical makeup and electrical impulses in your brain determine reaction, mood, consciousness; all the way down to my preferring sashimi over maki and the smell of lilac causing me to remember my first cat. It’s all brain chemistry and has nothing to do with “belief.” Well. I take that back. it even influences spirituality.

Um… why are you using facts in a discussion with lekatt?

The reason I used the word chaos was because he used the word chaos.

Yes, but he is using the term correctly–to refer to the vast complexity of macro systems which makes them very sensitive to small changes in inputs, and therefore makes it very difficult to predict their behavior. When he is talking about the subatomic level, he uses the word ‘probabilistic’. Try reading his post more carefully. And try learning some science.

We have evidence that the “mind” spirit lives beyond the death of the brain, would you like a pound or two.

Maureen, for the love of Kronos, just walk away.

Because, dammit, they’re supposed to work! I mean, honestly. Someone posts something reasonable about science and determinism, you don’t expect that person to then turn around and completely discard the remaining facts because they find them distasteful. Or am I being naive, here?

You may wish to do a search on lekatt’s posting history in this forum.

Physically, he (or she) is how you imagine him.

Figuratively, it is the emblem of war, torture and everything that’s rotten in this world.

Some people cherry-pick their religious texts. Some people cherry-pick reality. That’s just the way things are.

(Actually, I’d say that everyone cherry-picks reality to one degree or another; nobody takes everything into account. It’s just some people cherry-pick it with an agenda.)

Well, sure. Everyone has filters. But most people when presented with facts simply say “Oh. I didn’t know that. Thank you for the information.” And then move on, and either process that information or don’t. They don’t then go on to assert scientific proof of the “spiritual mind” living on after brain death! If you dream that you’re floating over your body and “seeing” the doctors applying paddles, then that’s just your mind playing funny buggers with you! It isn’t real.

But I feel I’m continuing a massive hijack of a plane already determined to crash and burn. I’m going back to talking with cosmodan

I would say that in seeking “justice,” more often than not many seem to be seeking revenge, which, IMO, seems to be an evolutionary trait. As for love…my previous statement stands. Pheromones and brain chemistry have more to do with it than actual conscious choice.

God itself is not in evidence.

Yes, and I am rather proud of it.

The only reason I asserted it, is because it’s true. There has been a lot of research lately and most people just don’t keep up with it.
Here is a story I found in the news today.

http://www.newsmonster.co.uk/paranormal-unexplained/near-death-experiences-are-real-and-we-have-the-proof-say-scientists.html