I strongly recommend this article:
If the goal is to get away from regular exposure to the US political and social climate, then Canada is probably the single worst place he could choose. Not only are our news and entertainment systems dominated by the US, we have a significant minority of our own Trump-like idiots who think that what the US is doing is just great, and want Canada to follow suit.
But we do have better football, at least.
I never did get Canadian humo(u)r.
True, that. I’m looking at it from a ‘where can I go where my life would be very similar to what it is now’ viewpoint.
Not true, that.
I believe Portugal encourages immigration from the UK and US. I’m considering it if Trump wins reelection.
FTR, that article links to a list of race riots in Wikipedia where the ones they list in Spain include three that I have no fucking idea what they’re talking about and one which was a fight between two different groups of immigrants selling fakes on the street (yes, they happened to have different skin tones, but “skin color” wasn’t the issue).
The Scandinavian countries are perfect on paper, but every time I’ve lived in Finland, I’ve gone into severe depressions. I remember that every time I think about moving there. (I could get permanent residency easily, based on ancestry.)
Is there a cite for Portugal encouraging immigration?
The countries whose politics would probably most appeal to you (Sweden, e.g.) are also not likely to let you in as a permanent resident, unless you’ve got an ancestry connection or a lot of dough. And even Sweden’s politics has an ugly side.
And, if you are unhappy with America’s politics, why not stay here and try to change what you don’t like?
Here’s one.
We are looking at Ireland. Beautiful place, wonderful people. Easy to get back to the US, and just a hop over to the continent. No language issues, part of the EU.
We don’t have any family ties to the place, so we don’t qualify for any descendant categories. Otherwise, they require a level of retirement income and chunk of change in the bank, which we can cover.
As for local politics? Well, every place has politics. But at least their Prime Minister is gay, and the people overwhelmingly voted last year in favor of a referendum to allow abortions, so they seem to be heading in the proper direction.
If one went to North Korea, one would be looked upon as a god!
Oh, sorry, dog. Western imperialist dog.
Could you really survive in Portugal for 13,200 euros per year? That really seems like a low number to me. If so it may get added to my list of potential retirement locations.
I will repost what I said in a previous similar thread:
The only reason to leave is if it affects you and your family personally. Otherwise leaving doesn’t help anyone.
So you will leave, which will ensure that you can’t do anything, because you are now in another country. In the meantime, the causes you believe in will not have changed one bit.
Do the “bad things” stop if you leave? Do they even cease being on the news?
Be sure you can clearly articulate why your life will be better in that other country.
Oh, they’ll change alright.
I don’t wish to be part of a country where the voters twice elect someone like Trump. I’m not doing it to “help anyone.” I’m resigned to giving up and checking out. I’ll be at retirement age anyway.
So to be clear, it’s not what Trump threatens that bothers you–it’s just Trump, and your inability to come to some kind of agreement with close to half of your countrymen about which end of a shit sandwich to eat first?
If I didn’t have to worry about actually getting approved for permanent residency anywhere, of the places I’ve been, the Netherlands would be at the top of the list, followed by the UK, Italy, Belgium, France, Czech Republic, Hungary and Mexico.
I haven’t been to Canada yet, but based on the Canadians I’ve known, I think I’d probably like it there a lot.
It could be light deprivation. There have been several studies done that indicate it is a valid phenomenon.
A subsection attached to but not totally linked to a major nation. Think Gibraltar or the Ionian Islands. For me probably the Ionians.
Well, I’m not exactly sure what the second half of this question means. But, yes, Trump doesn’t threaten me personally. I’m a rich white guy with a good job. However, I do not want to live in a country where there are enough deplorables to elect such an incompetent obscenity a second time (after seeing what a shitstorm his election has wrought). As others have said, Trump is a symptom, not the problem. If my countrymen elect him again, the problem is severe and probably hopeless. The people of Ireland and Portugal may have their faults, but I don’t think I’ll care quite as much as I do watching the country I love fall to pieces.