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That’s not what I was doing at all.
I have spent a lot of time on sites that are supposed to help people that are magnets for trolls, some extremely convincing.
So if someone randomly posted “hey I’m a porn star” I would probably not know if they were real or fake.
On a site like this one I would imagine most people who have been here a while would be experts at sniffing out trolls. So I genuinely wondered how would you know?
You all seem very smart and savvy, so I’d just like to know how you know who is real. Like what signs would you look for and that kind of thing.
I concur, but I’d ask her to either ensure that the men used condoms, or they had a valid medical proving they didn’t have an STD.
I hope all the men replying that they wouldn’t approve have never enjoyed porn or used a prostitute.
Since when did “reporters” ever report that something was OK as opposed to bad or worse?
They make their living “reporting” about bad things in life, rarely the good, which is why I rate them as being below porn stars, as at least one can get off on what porn stars do.
And if you wouldn’t want your daughter to be the next Kardashian I hope you’ve never ever watched a single episode of a reality show, because that’s reasonable.
From what I recall of Abby’s and Mike’s interventions, and other similar interviews, at least in respectable legal porn nobody can be made to perform with someone else, everyone has the right of refusal. However the “and still stay in the movie” part (including how much they get paid if they do) depends on whether there’s any other role for him/her; that’s only reasonable.
I think the point is, if you are of the opinion that porn is invariably damaging to the women who participate in it, and you still watch porn, you are kind of like an audience member at the Roman coliseum watching the gladiators risk death and serious injury for your amusement. You don’t give a shit what happens to the participants, so long as you get “entertained.”
It may be the case that porn is generally a reputable industry that has no issues concerning abuse and disease, and that reports to the contrary are mere sensationalism. I have no real idea from personal knowledge, as I have never myself acted in porn.
However, when assessing the possible risks to a hypothetical daughter of mine, exactly how else am I supposed to do it, other than to read up on the matter?
I dunno about “invariablt damaging”. How about “risky”?
I make use of the services of people doing risky jobs all the time, gratefully; it does not follow that I’d be happy with my kids doing them.
To give an extreme example, I don’t see a contradiction in being happy that there are people who work in bomb-disposal, but I’d be very anxious if my kid wanted to do that. I’d be happier, myself, if he or she worked in an area with less risk of being blown to bits. Maybe if the kid really had a calling, thought s/he was doing good in the world, I could be comforted by that. Ultimately of course it will be the kid’s call as an adult.
Similarly, I don’t see any contradiction between enjoying porn, and worrying about the potential for STDs, abuse, and reputational harms in the future that may come about from a kid of mine working in porn.
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I apologise for misunderstanding the other post you made - it appeared to me you wanted the power to vote other off the SDMB island.
Most adults regard sex as an enjoyable activity, and while most would not want to be viewed doing it by a lot of other people, some do.
As long as it is a legitimate organisation carrying out the production, there is no doubt that the “actors” are less at risk of the above concerns making porn films than those indulging in casual sex and one night stands, where the status and character of the participants is unknown.
I have met and spoken with Brandon Irons (porn producer) as well as a few porn stars (Liv Wylder, Aurora Snow). For most porn productions, yes, the participants have total veto power. All part of casting for the production and working out the contract. They spell out in advance (1) who they will do, (2) exactly what they will do. It can be as specific as only certain amount of time doing specific positions (because those are tiring/difficult). There are no casting couch issues. If the producer wants to screw you, it will be part of the contract for the shoot, and he’ll film it.
There may be some shady ones like the Facial Abuse site listed above. That site is not just facials, it is very aggressive oral, deepthroat, degrading, name-calling, face slapping, gagging, to the point the girls are crying. It is likely the girls can call quits, but not and still get paid. Just how much of that kind of domination is “consenting” is arguable. With actual S&M pages, they typically have as part of the scene a wrap up interview discussing with the performer smiling and saying how much fun it was and how much they liked getting their ass reamed or whatever. Not so with the site above.
There are some types of porn where there may be less specificity in the performers. There are fetish themes for bukake and whatnot where they specifically pull in regular guys with the promise they can be in a porno and get head/cum on a pretty girl. Brandon gave me his shpiel about coming out to California. He talked about the girls for this and the stuff he shoots.
He said most of these young 20-something girls were in it for a lark or curiosity or the idea that it made them feel sexy or whatever. They could agree to the specifics, and everyone is tested. These girls would have a “career” of six months to a year filming a dozen or so videos, then move on with their lives. They wouldn’t necessarily tell their future boyfriends about what they had done, but they weren’t forced into it nor were they ashamed of it. It just wasn’t something they were interested in any more and not something you want to tell a guy on the first date - “By the way, have you seen Facial Sluts 27? I’m in it. I’m the third girl.”
Hopefully that information can help inform people in this thread.
I don’t have any children, but I think my reaction would be to have a considered conversation of what they were doing and why, talk about safety and especially the ramifications of the internet and how this stuff will be around forever and could potentially impact future careers, etc. The harsher, more violent the porn, the more concerned I would be and the stronger my objections would be. In the end, I remain their father and keep them in my life, regardless of my opinion of their personal decisions. Just like I expect from my parents.
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Of course.
My objection would be to someone that comes on here to lambast those that think it is OK for their daughter to participate in porn, yet accepted/ enjoyed it as long as it was someone else’s daughter.
At face, this would be among my biggest objections to it, just as it would with anything else of exploitative nature.
That said, I’d try to understand before I seek to dictate my will, as I can’t tell an adult child of mine, male or female, what to do. The short answer is that I don’t know, until I’ve had the chance to listen to them, first.
I could only imagine how ambiguous the details would get during some conversations, to try and control the social ramifications of the decision, though.