Body, body, body, a thousand times body. I think most straight guys would agree. Describing my ideal woman includes breast size, figure, butt size, posture, how she dresses, what color her hair is, and how she “moves”. I’ll overlook women with even the most gorgeous faces, but I’ll have to walk funny for a few minutes if I pass by even an ugly woman with a smokin’ body.
Agreed.
But since this is about physical attraction, I thought I’d mention that.
I’ve always though a nice face to edge out a nice body by a bit, but in proportion. That is a very nice face with a very ugly body I don’t like. But I’ll “sacrifice” body looks for face looks.
Gosh this conversation feels a bit shallow.
But hey, It’s biology.
Face.
It’s funny that ‘Body, body, body, a thousand times body’ sounds so much like that camp Abba classic ’ Gimme gimme gimme a man after midnight’ really, then.
I don’t know how a guy can choose. I just can’t give you an answer. Ugly face, hot body? Huge turnoff. Pretty face, bad body? No turnon.
You poor, poor man. What you don’t know.
Face. I can’t even imagine screwing someone whose face didn’t do it for me. Good god, that’s where the eyes are, the mouth, the voice, the facial expressions.
There seems to be a lot more variability, and a lot more unattractiveness at the low end of the scale, for body rather than face. If you picked the first 10 women out of the phone book, the one with the ugliest face would probably be on the unattractive side of plain. But the one with the worst body would probably be 4’8" and 350 pounds with an AA-cup bust and a club foot. You’d have to go pretty far into the phone book before you ran into a real two-bagger*
*So ugly, you need a bag for your own head in case hers falls off. Originated by Rodney Dangerfield.
No one’s saying you’d have to choose. I did say that we’re assuming, for the sake of the discussion, that both attributes are adequate.
Hijacking my own thread; a beautiful voice outweigh. I like my wife’s body and face, but oh, her voice just makes me weak.
Face.
You’ll spend far more time looking at the person’s face than at anything else.
Face. I’m surprised by the number of people who answer “face” too (at least males) because it has been my experience when discussing with other guys that the body mattered more to the vast majority of them when deciding of the attractiveness of a woman.
Or at least that the face was much less important for them than it was for me, which might not be exactly the same thing.
I don’t think so at all. The reason I have so few sex partners is that I am extremely picky about looks. My wife is gorgeous and I tend to have lots of female friends. I use the same criteria to select them as any romantic partner. I don’t even like to talk to females with less than desirable faces let alone be with one. To say otherwise is the understatement of the century. I don’t want females with ugly faces around me at all and overall repulsion is not an understatement. There is no way I would ever pick a female with an ugly face over a decent body. I would would rather be celibate for the rest of my life. At least with a flabby body, you can can kick her ass to the gym every night or two. With an ugly face, the best you can do is to spend tens of thousands of dollars on plastic surgery and it still may not work out that well. There is no way a woman with an ugly face is ever going to see the inside of my bedroom let alone stay there.
:: reaching into pocket ::
:: pulls out **Shallowest Male Doper of all Time ** badge, awarded me in 2003 and never since seriously contested ::
:: sighs ::
:: leaves badge on credenza for new record holder ::
Guard it well, noble warrior!
He said he doesn’t like looking at or being around people he finds “less than desirable.”
Do you like looking at such people?
Not especially. But I have several female friends who are, ah, something less than gorgeous, but who have multiple good attributes that far outweigh any aesthetic lacking. I’d rather be with a friend who was clever, quick-witted, funny, and honest than a vapid beauty who looked like Monica Bellucci.
(I don’t know what MB is vapid; I mention her because she’s a famous woman who has a great face and a great body.)
Choosing one’s friends based primarily on their physical attractiveness is too shallow even for me. And EVERYBODY knows I’m a putz; why, look who started the thread!
(Not that I’m calling Shagnasty a putz, mind you. But the bald lookism of his post was simply stunning.)
If you don’t go out of your way to surround yourself with all the ugly people you can find, you are a horrible monster.
Sure, in theory, one could base their friendships and relationships on personality alone. I don’t go out of my way to avoid speaking to women that I find less than desirable, but I’d be lying if I said that looks don’t play a big role in who I usually start talking to in the first place. It’s an unconscious thing that I don’t even realize I’m doing most of the time, but it’s definitely there.
And your OP specified that personality was out of the picture for this thread:
Is Shagnasty missing out on something by selecting acquaintances based purely on appearance? Probably. But starting a thread whose purpose is to avoid the nonphysical, then attacking someone for avoiding the nonphysical, makes no sense to me, even given the extent to which Shagnasty has taken your approach and gone pro, so to speak.
Well you seemed to have summed up my view nicely. I’ve known girls with smoking hot bodies that were just too hard to look. A cute or pretty face is important to me.
Rhymers never make sense. You should know that. There was a memo and everything.
The face. But if the body isn’t also attractive 
I’ve been struggling with this. I’ve been dating a woman who’s face is OK. but her body is easily 40 pounds overweight. The beauty that might be there in her face is not going to be enough for me to maintain a relationship with a woman whose belly is huge whether in profile or reclining. It turns me off.
I know several other women of equal size who have a face that is beautiful and would entrance me forever. But without one or the other . . . I can’t maintain sexual interest.
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I’m a fifty-ish heterosexual male who’s has a lot of girlfriends in my life.
IMO, the body.
Over the years, your values and habits bear much less reflection on the face than on the body.
And agreeing on what to have for dinner, and whether to watch TV or go for a hike afterward (along with the long-term affects of same), matters more than a pretty face to me.
I realize that there’s an unspoken assumption here that she has some smarts, to include integrity and compassion.
But, a fit, built, intelligent 50-ish woman with a weak chin or crooked nose? I’d much prefer your company to the average 1977 prom queen.