After a quick skim, they don’t look like very good evidence of what you claimed, but I’m still reading them. I’ll get back to you with a longer post once I’m done reviewing them.
This post follows your “While you are doing that” request to me. Seems a tad hypocritical to expect me to do two things at once while you’re unwilling to.
I’m not asking you to explain it again, just give me the post # where you explained it the first time (and a link to the thread if it was in a different thread).
I will, just for kicks and grins: Note–all references to “you” are to “you in general”, not you specifically.
"Normal people, growing up, are socialized to know societal norms. If you are not one of these people, either learn, and learn fast or shut up. Either way. It is not the mission of the SDMB to try to teach you normal human interaction. If you can’t figure it out on your own, you’ll be warned and then banned.
Addendum: The mods/admins are not your parents trying to teach you in kindergarten a “slut-whore” and she smacks you, you deserved it. Nor are they your high school teacher telling you that saying to a friend who’s mom had a mastectomy “Pics or it doesn’t count. :D” You should have figured this utterly basic social norms now. "
So, Fenris, just for kicks and grins, could you tell us which side of the “hot” divide you come down on? Is calling a woman “hot” part of normal human interaction, and ought to be acceptable on this board, or should it be warnable and bannable?
I believe that where Dopers appear to be significantly divided over the issue, posts along the line of “See? Easy” or ‘it should be obvious to every non-dense person’ are out of place and wrong.
I further believe that the SDMB would benefit greatly from some clear guidance on what the mods deem acceptable or not in this space.
As for the word “hot”, in the real world, I have no difficulty imagining circumstances where it would be acceptable, perhaps even welcome (e.g. a man, to a woman he is on a date with, or a female friend encouraging a friend that she is attractive), and circumstances where it would be inappropriate (said about a co-worker, or a teacher in a class, etc.).
It’s been ruled already that it wasn’t hate speech or even racist to respond to the news of some Iraqi children accidentally being killed by some Iraqi Air Force pilots, “Why should we care? One band of primitive savages attacking another. WHo cares?”
It is tedious but for the opposite reason. It is so obvious, we are told, that any dumbass can see it, but we can’t get a rule on it because it is too complicated. Which is it?
We are not arguing at the outer margins. Nobody does that. If a woman says that she just had a mastectomy and you ask to see a tit pic: out of bounds. We all understand that. We all had mothers.
I’m confused as to why we can talk about how hot KellyAnne Conway is in the way that Michelle Obama is not, or how it is okay to say I would fuck Jennifer Aniston, but a simple comment on a spectators appearance at the Kavanaugh hearing is bad. My mother didn’t teach me that nuance.
And if you respond that I had a shitty mother, is that misogyny?
I have watched, and what I’ve learned has been that there is some inconsistency here. Both “I wouldn’t kick her out of bed” and “she can cure ED” are fairly vivid ways of noting that a woman is physically attractive, with some sexual undertones. One resulted in moderator action and the other did not.