What's the best way to fall from a building?

I’ve often wondered this, for some obsessed reason. Perhaps I’m trying to assuage my fear of heights by feeling prepared.

If one falls off a relatively high building, how would you best land?

On something nice and soft would be the best answer, but let’s assume your going to land on a relatively smooth patch of grass and dirt.

I think a few different heights could be relevant: the dangerous but probably survivable 15 m, the suicidal but possibly survivable 30 m, and then any height great enough to achieve terminal velocity (of say a 70 kg human).

In the first instance I would try to land on my feet and try to break my fall as best I can. After that I’m not so sure… maybe spread my body out to absorb the impact and create wind resistance.

My immediate thought in answer to the thread title was, “While dreaming … so you can wake up before hitting the ground!”

IANAPhysicist, but I would have to think that your impulse to spread out, creating both wind resistance and greater surface area for the impact, would be the best way to go in any case.

My reasoning comes from my training in the theater. When you learn how to fall on stage, you learn to fall knee-hip-side (more properly a swoon than a fall, but that’s how it is). The idea is at each step to maximize the amount of your body that hits the floor, thus minimizing the shock to any one part. Further, whenever I’ve seen a stunt person take a fall from a building, they invariably work it so as to land on their back (thought I grant, they are landing on something soft).

Landing on your feet from a height of 15 m sounds to me like a ticket to Trusses ‘R’ Us. :slight_smile:

Last but not least: welcome to the SDMB.

I believe the book The Worst Case Scenario might help you, though it describes dumpster-diving in the hopes of surviving the fall. I don’t have a copy on hand (from my window right now, I only have to go about 8 m or less, unpleasant but not worrisome for me).

Hitting anything close to terminal velocity is extremely difficult to survive (though not impossible). I don’t think anything you can do will really help you in that case, you just have to get lucky.

Take martial arts and learn various ways to roll. It helps convert downward momentum into lateral momentum, which won’t hurt as much. Although you’d have to be a Super Master Ninja[sub]TM[/sub] to survive a fall sufficient to give you terminal velocity, which I think is around 160 kph.

You need to put on one of these before ascending to any height within your building.

I’d say:

From the basement window. :stuck_out_tongue:

If you fell out of an airplane without a parachute, would it do any good to try to build up your lateral momentum by gliding to the side?

sturmhauke: Excellent advice for a motorcyclist or segway jockey, but there ain’t much rolling or leaning involved once you’re defenestrated.

Hey, but you qualified your response and are correct about the terminal velocity! Ouch!

I think the best way to fall from a building is in the lobby. Yo! You can sue 'em, too!

Ive thought about the same thing and I dont see how it would. Youre falling so fast that when you hit the ground, its like falling straight down anyway.

OK, short of dedicating myself to martial arts, is the consensus so far spreading out the body?

I don’t think I would have the quickness to roll even at 15m, but I think my instinct would be to make sure something, anything besides my head hit the ground first. If my body was spread out it seems that it would be easy for my head to just smack the ground with no buffer.

I guess this is a hard one to answer. Stunt people are the only people I can think of that make a living jumping out of buildings and the usually land on something really soft and elastic. But I thought maybe someone who’d parachuted would’ve been told something (besides maybe pray) about the worst of all possibillities.

I remember watching a show somewhat related to this once. I think it said its best to land on your side to somewhat absorb the impact. If you land standing up the shock can shatter your spinal cord or something. I don’t remember exactly.

No, that’s exactly it. For example, if you’re in a falling elevator, standing straight up is the worst thing to do, because on impact the force from the floor would literally compress you like an accordion. As your feet start to slam back up on impact, the upper part of your body is technically still descending. Crunch! Can’t be great for your spine.

So in that falling elevator, best thing to do is lie flat on the ground and spread out. Your downward inertia will hopefully spread into the floor on impact, while leaving you intact.

…or it might be more of a “Sploosh” than a “Crunch”. :smiley:

You’d be surprised at how much damage you can do to yourself from what seems like a relatively small fall. My father just fell off a ladder about 8 meters onto concrete and nearly killed himself. His falling “technique” involved landing on the right foot, snapping his shin into itsy bitsy pieces, and then absorbing the rest of the impact with his shoulder, which needed to replaced by a metal ball. He’s 53 and has never broken a bone previous to this, and as far as I know, his bones are strong.

The plus side to this “technique” was no spinal damage, no internal bleeding, no head injuries. I’m not sure if this is the best way to fall (certainly not the most pleasant) but landing on both legs would probably f-up your spine and I can’t imagine spreading yourself out like a pancake seems counter-intuitive (SPLAT!) but on further review, may not be so bad an idea after all.

Some martial arts teach this also, usually in combination with a roll. So let’s say someone throws you head first through a ground floor window. First you shield your face with your arms until you break through, then you tuck your chin into your chest and do a somersault as you hit the ground. Straighten your legs, spread your arms at about a 45 degree angle and slap the ground at the same time as the rest of your body comes over your head and down. You can practice this at home (well, I’d advise against using broken glass). Cover a large area with a bunch of blankets, futons, matresses, something like that. From a sitting position do some somersaults, then when you feel comfortable do them faster. Gradually start out from a more elevated position until you are standing, then if you are ambitious try walking, running, and then running and jumping into a roll. It’s better if you have someone to instruct you, but you can teach yourself if you take it easy. Anyway, it’s definitely important to protect your head. The idea with the “roll-and-slap” method is to transfer kinetic energy from your head to your extremities, which can handle damage better and also have greater surface area. If you are falling and just splay yourself out and go splat, you are more likely to crack your skull.

Let me add that in a falling elevator, it probably is better to spread yourself out on the floor. That way a large portion of your body is likely to hit at the same time, spreading the energy around. If you try that in a free fall, some part (your head for example) is likely to hit first, and more energy will be concentrated there.

I had figured the best thing to do in a falling elevator would be to lean on the wall so that you’ll slide down when it hits and thereby approximate a five-point landing.

That, or jump up right before impact and grab the ceiling fixture.

Remember, it’s not the fall that causes damage/death, it’s the sudden stop at the end.

The quicker you stop the higher the peak g-force you experience, and that’s what breaks bones, etc. At around 20g’s the force is enough to rip the aorta free of the heart, which is usually fatal.

Ideally, if you must jump or fall from a building you want to land on something soft, “soft” being a relative term. Dirt is preferably to pavement. Grass to bare dirt. A dumpster full of garbage is better (unless, perhaps, it’s full of metal filing cabinents).

The OP estimate of 15m is overly optimistic. In general, the fatality rate starts going way up as soon as you reach 20 feet, or about 6m, and humans rarely survive greater heights.

That said - if you jump and land on your feet DO NOT hold your legs ridgid - bending of ankle, knee, and hip can absorb the shock to some degree although you are mostly definiately risking broken bones and spinal compression (the latter can be fatal). A belly-flop landing can also dissipate the impact, but only up to a point. The concept here is to slow the stop, or more precisely de-accelerate less rapidly.

By the way, the terminal velocity of a spread-eagled human body (the skydiver’s posture) is 120 mph, give or take a couple. Which, by the way, is not something you will survive without an extraodinary landing point. Falling feet first or head first considerably higher speeds can be achieved, but we don’t want to go in that direction anyhow.

Those who have survived falls from airplanes aloft or other great heights without benefit of parachute have one thing in common - something to dilute the impact. That might be dense tree branches, deep snow, or really anything that turns the sudden stop into a more gradual one. The stunt people in movies use this concept to break their own falls - falling from heights onto giant air mattresses or huge stacks of cardboard boxes and so forth.

The quicker you stop the higher the peak g-force you experience, and that’s what breaks bones, etc. At around 20g’s the force is enough to rip the aorta free of the heart, which is usually fatal.

Lateral movement (the suggestion of altering the direction of one’s fall, like a skydiver) only helps if the shift takes away enough of your downward velocity. It’s the downward component of the fall that kills. Even so, if you converted vertical terminal velocity of 120 mph to lateral enough to reduce the vertical to, say 20 mph (still enough to break bones) you then are traveling 100 mph laterally. Which means if you crash into something you still have fatal impact forces to deal with. Back when I was learning to fly I was told that, in an emergency landing, you need to get your lateral speed down as much as possible as well as the vertical component. In general, if you hit something in a landing airplane, horizontal speeds in excess of 80 mph are almost invariably fatal (and that’s with some metal and other structure around you to absorb impact). The emphasis is to get your speed as low as possible in all vectors to maximize survivability.

About those elevators - Cable hoisted elevators are extraordinarally safe - their safety bakes may result in alarming jolts but they can stop the fall of fully loaded elevator with total cable failure long before the fall becomes fatal. I don’t know the engineering details, but death usually comes from trying to leave a stuck elevator car and then falling down the shaft, rather than the car itself causing the death of the occupants. Hydraulic elevators are another matter - if the system fails you fall, it’s that simple. Last summer Chicago had several deaths and a dozen serious injuries when one of these failed, and those folks only dropped 2 stories. One survivor who escaped with minor injuries supposedly managed to get up on the handrail in the car before impact, but I don’t recall all the details.

Kind of on a tangent, but I think what threads like these often really boil down to is a rationalization of death. It may be true that 99.9999% of people who fall from a 20 story building die, but not a clever guy like me–I’ll find some way to live through it. Whenever we hear of some horrible accident, I think in the back of our minds we automatically start going through how we would have been among the deserving achievers who survived. The idea that survival and non-survival is really just a random process–with the odds stacked against us–is too scary to contemplate.

Does anyone remember seeing something about a guy skydiving in a suit with webs between his legs and arms? - he reckoned that he would eventually be able to land safely without a parachute by building up tremendous lateral speed and then ‘flaring’ before impact.

(although I also have a nagging memory that he got killed after filming the show (in a rock-climbing accident though))

Take a cue from the Defenestration of Prague and find a nice, nearby, pile of horse crap. :slight_smile: