There are many gods, but one God. These minor gods will tell differing stories while claiming to be their god.
Within the servants of the Lord, each person has their own anointing, and make up the body of Christ. A hand does not need to know what the eye needs to know, and are told different things, but work together as a whole. So a verse that a person with a particular anointing may be interpreted for their anointing one way while it may be interpreted in another way for a person with a different anointing. The spiritual meaning remains constant, but how it is explained physically to that person is based on how they need to use it. And also not everyone will get divine definition of every scripture, so there may be other non-divine interpretations - God’s gift of distinguishing between the spirits will help the believer discern the truth.
Sorry, but that makes no sense what so ever!!
The Old Testament was translated into Greek from Hebrew a century or so before Christ. It’s called the Septaugint, and it was used by Jews and Greek-speaking early Christians* for several centuries after Christ’s death. When a Gospel writer quotes the OT to tell you that he thinks Jesus fulfills this-and-such prophecy, he’s quoting the Septaugint. The Gospel writers probably didn’t speak Aramaic or Hebrew at all, and they wrote the Gospels in Greek. I don’t know if the Bible as codified in the 4th century used the Hebrew-to-Greek-to-Latin route, but I suspect they did.
Modern translations, however, typically translate directly from the Hebrew texts that the Jews have preserved from that time. If you want to read a Hebrew-to-Greek-to-Latin-to-English version, I bet the King James is a good example.
*In the eastern Roman Empire, everyone spoke Greek, not Latin. It was the lingua franca for the Mediterranean east of Italy.
If you can’t understand that, may I suggest seeking the Lord, He does explain these things, though once you understand it you may or may not be able to relate it to others, as such things God many times wishes to reveal to His people Himself.
To try to help.
In the case of suicide bombers, look at Paul, and Paul before his conversion, when he was known as Saul, and sought to destroy the church sometimes by killing it’s members. Look at Jesus’ reaction to Saul when He confronts Saul, Look at how Paul defended his piety and following the law when he was known as Saul. Saul thought he was doing the will of God, but as Saul was missing a very important part, the heart of Jesus living inside him, Saul had a heart of stone, God gave Paul a heart of flesh and wrote his law on Paul’s heart, and removed Paul from the written code.
The suicide bombers are much like Saul, following instructions of a written code with a heart of stone. Even after Saul did much to hurt and kill the church, God still turned Saul around, which is possible for these suicide bombers also.
What?
As I remember it, Jesus and Saul never actually met at all. Can you give us a cite of where they met face-to-face?
Or yusing the LOL cat bible:
Not in the flesh. Saul had a major conversion experience where he saw Jesus in a divine, not a human, form. Or he was hallucinating, depending on your viewpoint here. It’s in the book of Acts.
Is there ever an accurate translation? Only god himself can answer this one.
I guess God just led me to believe your thinking is different than mine and made me see the other side of the coin,so I do not have to follow as you do. Your Gods and God make no impression on me. Your God is so different than Poly’s or Tomdebb or the other Christians on the board, in comparison yours is not worthy of thought, or worship. I couldn’t believe such a being exists (such as your God). You like to think that way so fine…as for me no thanks!
Your God also created and knew (if he knows all things) That there would be people who didn’t belive as you do and seems to love them anyway and doesn’t care what they believe. Because some human said, taught or believed something doesn’t mean it was from God, just their own mine wanting it to be that way. Hence many sincere people belive differently and are just as loving and kind as the ones they diagree with.
This has a serious flaw as a response to Silverstreak. Silverstreak said that the bible could have been completely messed up in intervening centuries. If there is any validity in that, your quoting a supposed contradiction in that bible is meaningless… Because… wait for it… the words and meaning of that could have been messed with.
First, you would have to dispute that argument. I don’t believe it, so I’ll do it. We don’t have any of the originals. But, scholars have compared over 1000 (full and partial) copies we have of the bible and concluded that 95% (or more) is as it was originally written. And the rest is annotated. Ok, NOW, (if you accept that,) your argument might have some merit. Since we can be sure it’s written as intended.
I don’t buy your argument either, though, so I’ll make a counter argument. Matt 16:27 says he will come in glory with his angels and reward each according to his works. vs 28 says some there will not see death until they see him coming in his kingdom… Then chapter 17 goes into some detail of the vision he gives them of just that. Similar story for Mark 8 and 9. So, I believe, even at the time, the only disciple they thought might live to see the physical coming was John, and he dealt with that in the last chapter of his book, saying it was a misunderstanding.
It is very possible, and likely, if God’s Word be true, that Jesus has come back many many times, hidden to the unbelievers, in Acts 7:57 the unbelievers actually refusing to hear.
The question is how long is a ‘age’, or how long is the harvest of the earth.
The old “Jesus was here, but you just missed him. He said to tell you ‘Hi!’, and He hopes he can meet up with you soon.” ploy.
Pathetic.
Not a unexpected response Czarcasm, but predicted by the Word of God:
That passage says nothing about Jesus coming back and not being recognized.
It does show how the unbelievers are blinded to the things of God. Czarcasm Jesus can walk up to you and take your dog up to heaven and unless He revealed Himself to you, which is mainly, if not exclusively, an acceptance on your part to let Him live in and through you, you would not see it. Jesus did come back to the apostles, at times they did not recognize Him either.
I think you are confusing Jesus with The Shadow.
I’m done with going down this line of thought.
I use NIV.
kanicbird, this is the forum for witnessing, but this is not the thread for witnessing. Unless you have an explicit English translation with specific evidence supporting a claim for it to be the best, you are now through in this thread. If you are simply going to burst if you cannot carry on your odd monologue, you may open a new thread and post ONCE to this thread with a link to the other. Otherwise, stop cluttering up this thread.
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My Bible says in Matthew 16/27-28 this:"For the Son of Man is to come with His angels in the glory of his Father,and then he will render to everyone according to his conduct.
Amen I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death,till they have seen the Son Of Man coming in his kingdom."
Matthew chapter 24 verse 3 through 35 clearly states the end of time would come before that generation passes away. Since there are no originals, one can make of it what they want, but that was the translation that was followed until the time of Luther. In such a case people were taught the wrong thing for generations?
So, if the old translations were wrong and there are no originals who can one believe? That is why there are numerous sects of Christianity.
I can’t answer the OP, but I would strongly recommend an annotated Bible if one wishes to understand its meaning. (I’m setting certain spiritual uses aside for now.) I use The New Oxford Annotated Bible; YMMV of course.