What's the scam in this e-mail?

I received this email at my place of work:

  1. I am not even on LinkedIn.
  2. “Nursultan Fidelbek uulu”? Really?
  3. 702 is the area code for Las Vegas, not Washington.

So obviously this request is as phony as the day is long. But what’s the angle? How could Mr. (or Ms.) uulu hope to take advantage of me if I were to call the number? No, I’m not going to call just to see what happens. But I am curious.

A quick Googling reveals that Nursultan Fidelbek uulu is a real person, just started at UDub. Strange, so at least that part is true.

As to the other part, I don’t think it’s a scam but a standard thing many Dopers have seen where students from other cultures, e.g., Asian, write to strangers asking for help. Some people are very keen on asking others for info, and actually expect detailed replies. There’s also a social-network building thing in doing this.

It looks like the person is on Linked In and is an intern. The phone could be a cell phone, so that could be why the person has a Nevada number.

If you aren’t on Linked In, then the person got your contact info somehow else.

It looks like that person may just be trying to network and is sending out emails to everyone. No need to respond.

Well, Nursulatan seems to have made the Dean’s List at U of W.

And he seems to have graduated from Mount Si High School.

He has a Linked In page.

He has a facebook page.

With cell phones and google voice and all the other stuff, the area code doesn’t necessarily have to correspond to his physical location. He could be anywhere from Las Vegas to Nigeria.

Of course, somebody could be stealing the real Nursultan Fidelbek uulu’s name in an attempt to perpetrate some scam. But they would have to be really clueless to steal a name like that.

Did you look at the headers on the email? Did it really come from U of W?

Have you googled yourself? Maybe somebody mentions your name in their Linked In biography?
I hate to tell you this, but there is a chance, no matter how tiny, that this might be legit.

Never thought I’d read these words on the Dope. :wink:

And I’ll be damned, Nursultan does seem to be a real person. It’s such an unusual name that I never even thought to look.

There are apparently 212 people with my name on LinkedIn. (!) I do know that I have a name-double in the same company, and I constantly get his e-mail. (My address is just my name, his has a number in it.)

The other guy has a much more important position, so maybe this was meant for him. I doubt that Nursultan wants to be a desk jockey like me.

Huh, now I kind of want to call him (or her).

Took out the phone number for you, just in case.

Which explains why there is a random reference to 702 being the wrong area code.
I was confused. Briefly. (and usually)
-D/a

It is a Kyrgyz name. *Uulu *is a Kyrgyz possessive form literally meaning ‘his son’. So Fidelbek uulu is how you’d say “son of Fidelbek” in Kyrgyz. So his last name can’t be “uulu” by itself, but the compound of the two words makes a patronymic that serves as a last name. (Its cognate in Turkish is -oğlu, written without a space.) I’d guess that his dad was born sometime in the 1960s and, Kyrgyzstan being a Soviet Socialist Republic then, was named after Fidel Castro in a burst of Communist bloc solidarity. Bek literally means ‘prince’ but it has become a general honorific for men, or a combining element in names like this one; its cognate in Turkish is bey. *Nursultan *is a compound of two Arabic words. This guy’s whole name is made of compounded compounds!

On the somewhat shrinking chance that this is a scam, I’d say that Mr. Uluu wants to know:

  1. If this email of yours is valid
  2. What your phone number is
  3. Whether you’re gullible enough to reply, which means possibly gullible enough to fall for the next scam.

Looks like you skipped reading my post.

Edit:
Am I the only person here who’s studied Kyrgyz?

Aren’t Turkish names ending in -oglu actually of armenian origin?

:stuck_out_tongue:

It was offered in my High School, but I selected Klingon instead. :frowning: My mistake.

No. Not necessarily.