Ayers is political poison and the Obama camp knows it. Why else would he dismiss his political mentor and long-time co-worker as “just a guy who lives in my neighborhood” and “not someone I exchange ideas with on a regular basis?” This about a guy appointed Obama as CAC’s first chairman in 1995! Why not tell the truth?
Why isn’t Obama bragging about his relationship with Ayers? Where is Ayers on the campaign trail if there is nothing to be ashamed of here? After all, Obama kicked off his first Senate campaign in Bill Ayers’ living room!
Offhand, I can think of only two people who have tried to blow up the Pentagon - Osama bin Laden and Barack Obama’s buddy, Bill Ayers. How many of you have even a passing acquaintance with anyone who’s ever tried to blow up anything?!
Let’s all remember that Jeremiah Wright was someone that Obama “could no more disown” than he could “disown the entire black community.” He said that about, oh, one week before he utterly “disowned” Wright via a press release.
No point at all. The fact is that Obama is (despite his denials) closely associated with an unrepentant terrorist. You can make of that what you will. The repeated denials from his disciples that this is the case (when it demonstratively is) have passed tiresome and are into amusing.
I ask “Has Obama or anyone associated with his campaign ever denied this”, and you say that’s not the point. Then you say “The repeated denials from his disciples…” Which is it? Back up your assertions that Obama’s disciples have repeatedly denied that he has had associations with Ayers.
Is it your view that Obama seeks to do harm to the United States of America, and he has gone about this by running for President, and once he is inaugurated, he will begin to work for the downfall of the country? If you believe that, then that’s one thing, and at least this makes sense. I think it’s insane, but at least it’s internally consistent. If you do not sincerely believe that Obama wishes to harm the interests of the United States of America, then this is so much dishwater and handwaving.
In point of fact, I do not have red hair. If you start out with erroneous statements, you are bound to come up with an erroneous conclusion, so Shodan was trying to determine if the statements were factual or not. leander’s statement was a bit fuzzy as to what it was that wasn’t accurate.
The linked op-ed makes a good case for it. You may not like it, but I haven’t seen anyone touch the facts presented. Obama launched his political career from Ayres’ living room for Christ’s sake. As I said, one can make of it what they will, but downplaying or denying the facts makes one look stupid.
Ayres is not a “terrorist.” Terrorists by definition, target people. Ayres vandalized some empty rooms in government buildings and always went to great lengths to make sure that no human beings got hurt.
The facts are that Obama served on a couple of charity boards with a law abiding neighbor and an English professor who was once a radical (but non-violent) anti-war activist 40 years ago. The leap from that to “terrorist proxy” is asinine and childish…and desperate.
Please. I will use whatever term you prefer to describe the relationship between Barack Obama and Bill Ayers, the man whose terrorist group, the Weather Underground, according to Wikipedia, “organized a riot in Chicago in 1969 and bombed buildings in the 1970s.”
Have you ever stood in the living room of a person who tried to blow up anything, let alone the Pentagon? Barack Obama has.
But, again, which term would you prefer I use to describe their relationship?
Not denying, but why does downplaying this fact make one look stupid? He launched his political career from an English professor and respected member of the communities living room, and has had little to do with the man and has not involved him in his political career since that one monent 13 years ago. What is your implication, exactly??
Probably from the parts where Ayers hosted fund raisers for Obama, got him appointed to the board of directors of his foundation, served with him, served on other boards with him, attended panel discussions with him, held press conferences with him, etc.
No doubt, apart from that, they were total strangers.
Yes, it was, which is why your argument is so easy to shoot down.
Unless you can show where somebody associated with this thread, the article in question, or the McCain campaign is saying that Obama is a terrorist, then your rather feeble comeback about twins is a a strawman.
Oh for crying out loud, cut the BS. YOU used the term “politcal mentor”. It was YOUR choice of words and you obviously meant something by it. If you wish to retract that designation then do so. Don’t weasel out of what you said, you pick your own words here.
Do you honestly think Ayers was a political mentor or not? Time to own up to your words or admit it was a smear.
Nice try, but bzzzzt. Again, from the Wikipedia entry:
However, according to Mark Rudd, one of the founders of the Weathermen, the group that constructed the bomb that exploded prematurely in Greenwich Village had planned to set it off at a dance in an Army NCO club, which presumably would have had lethal consequences. [1] Their activities have often been characterized as domestic terrorism,[9] including a later description by the FBI.[10]
Do you get ALL your talking points from Sean Hannity?
When he was starting out in politics, some people hosted a fundraiser for him at Bill Ayers’ house. So. Fucking. What? How does that make them “close associations?” Are you a close association of everyone whose home you’ve ever attended a party at?
Do you think that Barack Obama has anti-American or “terrorist” aspirations? Yes or no. If the answer is no, then you’re admitting this whole thing is a contrived, phony issue.
It’sd also not getting any political traction, by the way, no matter how hard the Hannitys of the world try to push it. Frankly, when it comes to unsavory assocaitions, it doesn’t get any more embarrasing than this
