Yeah, and so? how does that mean he can be assaulted as you dont like his politics? I dont like his politics either.
“This guy is a right wing provocateur journalist, it’s Ok to beat him up!”
“That guy is a left wing provocateur journalist, it’s Ok for the police to beat him up!”
When one side deliberately picks a literal fight with the other side, they don’t get to claim victimhood.
I agree that attacking journalists is foul, but (unlike Antifa) there’s more to being a journalist than just calling yourself one. That line has gotten seriously blurred with the advent of the internet and citizen journalist bloggers, but there are reasons Andy Ngo might not qualify.
Has he studied journalism? His degree is in graphic design. He was fired from his student newspaper, where he worked as a “multimedia editor.” The answer to this one appears to be “Yes, but not very seriously.”
Has he worked for a professional news-gathering organization? His writing credits are mainly for “advocacy” websites like Quillette and The Post Millennial; it is unclear whether or how much either of these websites pays, so “professional” is highly doubtful. He had a guest column published in The National Review once. At a guess, I would say his lifetime earnings so far for his writings are somewhere in the high three digit range, so no.
And there’s the big question, the one that separates the game fish from the minnows: If he libels me, can I sue his publisher or otherwise see that he faces serious consequences? No. The only consequences this man has ever faced for his non-professionalism are to get fired from a string of non-paying online publications, and to get a milkshake dumped on is head.
You can be a lot of things in this world just by saying you are them, but “journalist” is not one of them. Andy Ngo is no journalist.
Was anyone convicted for what happened to Ngo? If not, then his case is not relevant to this thread.
This makes no sense. A journalist is one who engages in journalism.
Edward R Murrow did not have a degree in journalis. Working for Quillette is obviously journalism and if he libels you, you can sue him.
He’s a blogger calling himself a journalist. Whatever.
Then what is journalism? Something a journalist does? 
Back to the O.P., there was the use of lasers to blind people.
But the act of shining lasers into the eyes of opponents specifically to blind them was addressed — and banned — by the United Nations during the Clinton administration.
In 1995, countries including the United States adopted a provision that specifically banned the use of increasingly powerful handheld laser devices to blind opponents.
The provision, the “Protocol on Blinding Laser Weapons (Protocol IV),” states:
Article 1: It is prohibited to employ laser weapons specifically designed, as their sole combat function or as one of their combat functions, to cause permanent blindness to unenhanced vision, that is to the naked eye or to the eye with corrective eyesight devices.
Article 2: In the employment of laser systems, the High Contracting Parties shall take all feasible precautions to avoid the incidence of permanent blindness to unenhanced vision. Such precautions shall include training of their armed forces and other practical measures.
Article 3: Blinding as an incidental or collateral effect of the legitimate military employment of laser systems, including laser systems used against optical equipment, is not covered by the prohibition of this Protocol.
Now, Antifa is obviously not a signatory to the protocol, but it’s generally considered bad form.
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Reporting narratives and pictures from newsworthy events.
Does the accuracy of the reporting matter at all?
Not finding this verified on any reputable news source. And the agents that were said to have been lasered are now said to have recovered.
Andy Ngo calls himself a journalist and was attacked by Antifa, but he wan’t attacked because he was a ‘journalist’. He was attacked because he provoked them.
If that’s the worst thing that Anitifa has ever done, they aren’t too bad.
such rules dont apply to non-combantents.
Who is to say “Antifa” did it, as opposed to some other protester?
I get that, but it does seem to be something to consider: if combatants aren’t allowed to do something, perhaps non-combatants shouldn’t be either. I guess that’s a whole other debate. Just a little while ago, I saw a video of a woman on her stoop or porch while she was wearing a Nazi armband. There was a sizable crowd around her. I noticed a lot of people were aiming lazer pointers at her face. The red dots were not held steadily on her eyes, but it certainly is dangerous to do what the protesters did. The crowd was very close to her, even after she orderd them to get off her property, so close that one protestor actually grabbed at the woman’s arm apparently in an effort to remove the armband. They chased her back into her home. None of this is acceptable behavior. The woman’s stunt was disgusting and the man who grabbed at her physically attacked her.
It seems to be rather difficult to say if something was, in fact, done by Antifa since, AFAIK, it’s not completely organized like, say, some white supremacists and fascist organizations are.
If you are a Nazi then probably Antifa invading Normandy.
Under those rules, Military’s cant use hollow point bullets, but they are very common in civilian use. Tear gas is banned for military use but it is common and legal to use by police, pepper spray is common in use by civilians but illegal for Military, and so forth.
But to quote the OP " any self-described member of Antifa ". Can you quote a member of Antifa using a laser to blind a cop?
How do you get membership in Antifa?
Really asking.
But to quote the OP " any self-described member of Antifa ". Can you quote a member of Antifa using a laser to blind a cop?
Are soldiers who invaded Normandy members of Antifa?
What does it mean to be a “self described member” of an organization that doesn’t exist?
Now, let me make this clear. it means- that you “self describe” yourself- as a “member”. How can you not understand that? I can self describe myself as a member of the “DrDeth for World Emperor” organization- even if no such organization exists. In fact it is easier to claim a membership in something that doesnt exist because no one can prove you aren’t.
You can say you are a member of Antifa, even if Antifa doesnt exist as a organization. Look at the cite about about Willem van Spronsen- he was indeed a self described member of Antifa, even tho his solitary activities are in no way the type of thing that antifa in general does.
This Is what the Op asked for- people claiming they are antifa and doing violent criminal things.
This debate style seems rather dishonest. How can you not be able to figure this out?