Cap wasn’t the focus of the show. So he wasn’t important. It was neat how circled the history aorund like that.
That wasn’t my favorite plot point, but I liked what they did with things.
If you take Evolution to be it’s own seperate storyline, totally offshot from the movies or the comics, I think they’re doing a good job of telling it. They’ve never claimed to be telling the “real” story of the X-Men (and the Marvel Universe, and they’d be fools to do so and set themselves up for all kinds of pain), just “their” stories that they wrote. Same characters, diffirent world.
And heck, why COULDN’T Wolverine and Cap have met up in the “regular” comic timeline? Also, I personally would much rather have read that Cap was cryogenically frozed by Shield than that “block of ice” story as well.
Did you notice, though, how the Professor was actually more cynical than Logan when they were discussing the intent of the Project?
Most depressing line in the show: “I’ll be here when you get out.” Lgaon telling Cap he’ll still be alive when Cap is thawed. Shows how old and tired Logan probably is of living so long. (Or do I read way too much into this show?)
Logan Logan Logan! No, I don’t need to spell check! arrgh!
Geek Nitpick-
In the official Marvel Universe continuity there have been several Caps. One was cryogenically frozen by the government.
Cap 1 was Steve Rogers. For a while, he was frozen in chunk of ice and floated around. Eventually, the ice chunk was found by the Avengers and thawed.
But, while Rogers was frozen the government replaced him with other Caps. Most were heroes. One (I could look up the exact number he was. But, I don’t feel like it), rediscovered the lost Super Soldier Formula and used it on himself. He became the new Cap for a while. Then, a flaw in the technique he used(He injected himself with the formula but couldn’t replicate the Vita-rays also used on Rogers) drove him insane. The government froze him. Eventually, he was thawed out. He became an agent of the National Force, a Nazi organization trying to take over first the US and then the world.
I missed the Evolution episode in question. But, is it possible that this is the Cap they met?
No–they specifically mentioned Steve Rogers.
Thanks. I figured they would’ve used Steve.
The other way would’ve been a good in joke though.
Plus, we kind of saw him and he was SO Steve Rogers. Plus, he was the original.
There have been other Caps - one of them, Protocide, was killed when an ambitious general assigned to the Cap Project used an incomplete formula. He went berzerk when he realized they’d poisoned him but doed minutes later. AIM revived him decades later - like Cap, he was bloody hard to permanently put down.
They mucked with his mind and he thought he was a great war hero and Cap murdered him out of jealousy. Eventually he got it sorted out and went his own way. I don’t think he’s done anything since. He would be an interesting guy to make a series about, but it would be hard to get it started, y’know.
Captain America, as first told in Marvel’s predecessor comics:
Immediately after Steve Rogers was given the Super Soldier formula, Nazis broke into the top secret lab, destroyed all the equipment, and killed the scientist who had developed the formula before he had committed it all to paper, leaving Steve Rogers was the sole beneficiary of Operation: Rebirth. Steve, as Captain America, went on to fight the Nazis in WW2, and then fell into the Arctic Ocean and was frozen in a block of ice for 20 years until the Avengers revived him in the late 1960s.
Captain America, as told by last night’s episode of X-Men Evolution:
Despite the obvious initial success of Operation: Rebirth on Steve Rogers, the U.S. government didn’t use it on anyone else for several months or years. Then, Captain America discovered he was dying, and sabotaged all the lab equipment himself (with a little outside help from a pre-adamantium Wolverine) so that no one else would be killed by the project. Soon after, he was frozen in carbonite by a bounty hunter and sent to the palace of Nick Fury the Hutt.
I took that to be Magneto getting “creative.” If you’re going to be a supervillain with magnetic powers, you might as well show some panache when you use them. 
Well, it took some time to make more atom bombs after the first tests. They may have been waiting on more adamantium shields. 
I really like Nick Fury in X-Men Evolution. He strikes me as being one of the people who’d be able to kick some serious mutant buttocks if he so chose.
[hijack]Note to self: Add tan-colored felt to shopping list when buying materials to make my own anatomically correct Nightcrawler plush doll.
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The people behind the show have said officially that there are no other costumed superheroes currently running around in the Evolution universe. No Spider-Man, no Fantastic Four, nobody. They allowed themselves to do a Captain America story only because Cap would be confined to the past.
No Spidey???
Say it isn’t so!
It does make for a sharper contrast in the mutant/human conflict without any other superpowered types running around, though. I always wondered why people on Marvel Earth got so worked up about mutants when there were so many people around with equal or greater powers already–particularly since the origins of those powers are usually unknown to the public.
I actually agree with their decision, and not only because it makes the mutant/human conflict more plausable (“Filthy mutants! Oh, wait, sorry Human Torch and Thing, we thought you were someone else. Want us to clean up the trashed building for ya?”), but also because there’s no NEED for other supers, except as possible future cameos. Evolution is such an obvious departure from main Marvel continuity that it just makes sense to me to keep it as “clean” from outside character influinces as possible.
This really is a good show. I am looking forward to seeing how they develop the Apokolips storyline.
Can’t wait for the new episodes
What’s Nick Fury, then? Chopped liver?
My reaction to tonight’s episode, “Shadow Dance”:
Hmmm! Well, what do you know – chicks really do dig the fuzzy elf!
(Of course, if Nightcrawler had looked like he does in the comics, Amanda might’ve had a different reaction…)
The Fantastic Four, Captain America, Iron man and Spider-man were all normal humans given powers but never really got hassled the way mutants were so it seem that the stigma in the Marvel universe is in being born different and that the created heroes are thought of as “regular guys who got lucky”.
I agree
Imagine the following as a 50’s newsreel. With a cheerful anouncer and appropriate footage running along with the copy.
Mutants- Here, some of them are born monsters. The first most people may here of them is Magneto’s criminal Brotherhood Of Mutants. AND while the other heroes were born human, mutants never were. Scientists tell the public that mutants, Homo Superior, may be the next step in evolution. Homo Sapiens are now obsolete. Mutants will replace us. Normal humans are vestigial. They are relics. H Sapiens proper place is in museum displays next to the Neanderthal.
Doc, I love that! It’s very Ultimates meets 50’s propaganda!
They’d have a product tie in, and a “Neighborhood Captain America Spy-Buster Club” thing with Bucky.
Of course, there have been mutants around for a while, like Apocalypse, but he’s so old people could just place his stuff under the heading of “myth”. It would be interesting to find out who locked him up though. One question: Has Apocalypse ever had mental powers? Xavier would have taken out Mesmero with no effort, so I assume the Big A was backing him up. Either that, or A gave him an upgrade.
I like the idea of a “clean” world. Really adds to the “outsider” aspect of the X-Folks. The whole Lance-Kitty thing is kinda sweet.