I’ve got the Ruger LCR in .327 Federal Magnum. Nice light weight easy to fit in your pocket. Used as a daily carry, but replaced by Sig 365s of various models.
I’ve never fired one. How is the recoil with the full loads?
I’ve got the Ruger LCR in .38 special. Small and lite, and easy for pocket carry. In .327 magnum, that must be fun to shoot. The LCR has a long DA trigger pull.
Mrs. Bond got her CCW cert. Now has to apply for a license. Didn’t know it was a two step process.
As I said, she doesn’t really intend to carry except when hiking alone. But I think I want to buy her a special carry purse. Holster perhaps, up to her though.
Thanks for the info on the .327. Interesting. I’m now leaning for a semi-auto for her though, but that is entirely her choice. We will see how she feels when she gets her Taurus back. She only shot it 10 times before it completely failed. After she gets to shoot it more she will be able to make a more informed choice.
I’m surprised I like the .380 so much. I’m usually more of a .357 or .45 guy. But the .380 while much less powerful seems fine.
Congratulations!
And, every state I’ve applied for (NV TX FL ID UT [CA is in process]) is a 2 step process: classroom and range, pass that and get the cert; and then (2) with that cert you apply for the CCW license with the local state sheriff office. They are the actual issuing authority. You’ll get the CCW license in the mail in a few weeks.
Pay attention to when the CCW license expires, and you’ll be able to apply for a renewal / extension in the mail. Usually you don’t have to re-take any class, unless you allow the CCW license to expire.
But again, congratulations!
On your particular application, do you have to specify weapon and caliber?
Same here. It’s surprisingly accurate at short ranges. But it became more and more uncomfortable in an IWB holster. I tried several and couldn’t get a comfortable setup.
A few years ago @pkbites told me the best EDC gun is the one you’ll actually carry, so I tried a Ruger LCP in .380. Much more comfortable, and I can even wear it inside gym shorts in the summer. The only drawback is it’s easy to forget it’s there.
I’d probably be surprised if mine didn’t jam. The Walther is the worst gun I’ve ever bought, and even after many attempts by gunsmiths it’s still unreliable. I got on a kick of collecting guns used by famous characters, but my “Bond” gun didn’t work out very well. The “Pendergast” gun (Les Baer Custom) is the most reliable I’ve ever had, and most accurate for me. But too heavy for EDC.
Thanks
Yeah, Mrs. Bond does say it expires (I also now call her Bonnie, she will probably tell me to knock it off, and of course, for my own safety, I will 
).
I haven’t seen the application, so I don’t know if it asks for weapon and caliber. I’ll have to ask her. Perhaps we have to go to the Sheriffs office to pick it up. Don’t know.
Sorry to hear. My wife shot the PD Walther (note: not a PPK, the PD is bigger) for her class yesterday. 48 rounds, 6 mags. I only loaded 8 in a 9 round mag, that might help. And it was different ammo. No problem at all.
Really like the gun. And it’s odd. I have big hands, my wife’s are small. But it seems to fit us both fine. It’s also easy to rack.
Seems fine for what though?
For any given ammo load and weight of gun, semi-auto will have less felt recoil than a revolver due to the energy spent cycling the action. And of course smaller lower-loaded calibers are easier to shoot than bigger more highly loaded ones.
So for sure something like a .22LR semi auto is great fun to shoot. At a range. But what you’re trying to stop when away from the range is the larger issue. It’s why you’re (any your) messing with guns in the first place.
Just don’t call her Octopussy! Or Pussy Galore.
Let’s remember that Mossad did some of their most critical work with .22LRs. I have a Browning mini-1911 in .22LR and I like to carry that.
I also like carrying my H&K USP compact in .45ACP…
Fine for comfortable range time, and fine for self defense in the home. Yes it’s a timid caliber, but with 8,9 or 13 rounds (my Walther is a 9+1) I think you are better off than with a revolver with 6. The revolver that you are almost certainly going to be shooting in double action in a defensive high stress situation.
For older folks that have some hand issues, double action is gonna throw your aim off for sure.
I also think it’s fine for CCW. The .380 is lighter than a 9mm or .45. My Walther is a single stack mag which makes it a bit trimmer. Though I am on the fence about that. And also possibly a 9mm.
We aren’t worried about bears anymore. Don’t need the .357 . The .380 has enough threat deterent/stopping power.
It did surprise me when my wife said she wanted to learn to shoot. She said that near attack by coyotes made her more afraid than she has ever been in her whole life. She and I have SCUBA dived with sharks literally circling around us.
Since I own guns (mostly inherited) I think it is a good idea for Mrs. Bond to become competent
with firearms. Not really concerned about home invasion, but admit that the current political atmosphere makes me a little nervous. When Trump is either impeached and not re-elected the MAGA’s could revolt. But they don’t have the spine for that I suppose.
Anyway, I don’t want to turn this into a political thread.
The .380 seems like a good choice. Safety when walking alone on a trail, easy to carry, home defense, range time, more capacity than a revolver. In any case, it’s better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
We are taking precautions, hence all the training. I purchased one bio-metric safe for the Walther, and will buy another when my Wife decides on a handgun.
Virginia, too, and when I lived there, up to 2020 the course could even be done theory-only, even on line.
Proviso - as I mentioned upthread and a few others, Colorado has passed recent legislation that now requires (some few exceptions) to take a “refresher” course prior to renewals (5 year period). I’ve mentioned it in a couple of threads, since I had no problems paying the fees at around $125 for 5 years, even if I haven’t carried in almost 7, but I’m strongly considering letting my CCW lapse in fall of 2027, because taking the refresher seems to be an extra step too far when I don’t do so.
Note, I voted in support of that legislation. Given a five year period, I don’t see anything wrong with getting a refresher periodically, since most people (not all of course) aren’t practicing every day, every week, or heck every month. I haven’t had much of a chance to even go target shooting and other practice due to ammo prices, Covid AND ammo prices, and general Cost of Living increases. Sure 9mm is down to $0.24 a round at retail, but that still adds up, and everything else I shoot (that’s not .22LR) is far more expensive.
Yes, a refresher is good. But it does seem silly to a person that has been shooting for 50 some years. My wife and I will see it as a new hobby. Probably shoot once or twice a month. There is a good breakfast place right near the range, so we kinda make a day of it.
If my wife is gonna shoot, she needs the practice. Her aim is good, but experience is paramount. She has demonstrated that she is safe with a handgun. She needs, though, not to fear it, but to respect it. I haven’t seen that quite yet. It will come.
And yeah, ammo is expensive. One of the reasons I’m thinking of us both having .380s is that it’s not too bad and sort of simplifies that.
I do have a .22LR Ruger MarkII bull barrel that I may use at the range. Nice gun.
Again, I don’t think the refresher is particularly onerous.
A refresher class must be held in person, be taught by a verified instructor, include instruction on changes to laws related to firearms, and require a passing score on a live-fire exercise and written exam. A refresher class must provide at least 2 hours of instruction, including the live-fire exercise and written exam.
At least two hours of instruction, live fire test and written exam (say 4 hours overall at a guess) isn’t too bad, especially considering the part where it mentions “on changes to laws related to firearms”, a test to makes sure you’re paying at least some attention, and a practical to make sure you’re still able to safely and accurately operate your firearm.
Yes, many good shooters I know (especially the ones that apply for a CCW!) do a good job on all of the above. But there are more than enough that don’t to make the above seem like a good tradeoff, if the circumstances merit it.
Legality and life in general are often based on taking care of/compensating for the lowest 10-20% of the populations in question, not the top 10-20%.
Of course.
I’m still stunned that my wife asked me about this.
We are recently retired, and will end up with too many hobbies/activities. We are also going to start a garden, and then travel to Europe next fall. I’m retired and have not had a chance to relax.
I’ve been hiring things out not because I don’t have the tools or knowledge, I don’t have the time.
I’m sorry, I’m guilty of taking this thread on so many tangents.
My wife wants a different gun bag. OK. Working on it.
I wish it was a few weeks, 100 days as NV resident both first time (after 8 hour class, submit in person at sheriff’s) and renewal (4 hour class). I didn’t need to do anything special for NR Utah, they had like an extra slide which went over UT-specific info. Basically just the places you’re allowed to carry at or not in that state IIRC. Then through the mail/email.
Class also covered Oregon, but they’re a pain in the ass so I never got it. Must be a border state resident, and must go to an in-person appointment at the half dozen or fewer county sheriffs that issue NR licenses. Even though I spend a bit of time up there, it would’ve been majorly inconvenient to travel to a county that does it.
It’s very weird. Colorado is an open carry state. I could carry open on my hip. I could carry an AR. But for CCW, you have all the hoops to jump through.
I have pointed this out for my state as well.
You can open carry a pistol or long gun, the right is codified in statute, and only have to be 18.
But to cover it up you have to be 21 and get a license.
Meanwhile those with criminal intent do wtf they want anyway.
Not as stout as a Bond Arms 45 Colt Derringer 